Fan in bathroom?

[ambercelery]

Hi

I am making some changes to my house - mainly the removal of a downstairs supporting wall - and addition of french doors.
I have needed to move the soil stack from the upstairs bathroom by about a metre and a half.

To do this, I have stripped everything out of my upstairs bathroom and am starting again - moving the toilet to the left side wall rather than previously on the right side wall. I will be installing new sink, bath, and new tiles etc.
However - as building control are involved in assessing my new structural work (removal of supporting wall) and new soil pipe - I have heard reports that regulations state that a bathroom may need a fan fitting. Could anyone point me in the direction of where this is stated?

I would prefer not to have a fan in this room - There will not be a shower in the room - only bath, sink and toilet. Is it correct that by moving my bathroom suite around the room, I have to fit a fan too ?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

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http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BC_Consolidated_Bldg_Regs.pdf
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[mikeyd]

An opening window is usually considered good enough for ventilation, but a fan is never a bad idea.

 

[salem2000]

An opening window is usually considered good enough for ventilation, but a fan is never a bad idea.

A fan or other method of extraction/ventilation is a requirement in all NEW bathroom installs, even if you have a window.

 

[Lectrician]

An opening window is usually considered good enough for ventilation, but a fan is never a bad idea.

NO!

All new builds have to have a fan in a bathroom with or without a window!

I cannot point to where it is written, but tis the truth! BAS has posted a link.

If building control is involved - Ask them That is what they are there for

 

[ban-all-sheds]

All new builds have to have a fan in a bathroom with or without a window!

This is not a new build.

I cannot point to where it is written, but tis the truth! BAS has posted a link.

You can't point to where it is written because it is not written. The Building Regulations do not mandate a fan, even in new builds - all they say is:

F1 There shall be adequate means of ventilation provided for people in the building.

If building control is involved - Ask them That is what they are there for

The trouble with that idea is that they are often monumentally ignorant themselves, and unable to distinguish between what the law says you must do and what the Approved Documents say you may do. If you don't care what you do then by all means remain in ignorance yourself, and go along with them, but if you have particular requirements which are not in contravention of the Building Regulations then take the trouble to learn what the regs say and don't ask Building Control what to do - tell them what you are going to do....

 

[333rocky333]

Does not section 1.5, say bathrooms have to have minimum airflow according to table 1.1A of the building regs

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The Building Regulations do not have a Section 1.5, or a Table 1.1A.

 

[333rocky333]

The Building Regulations do not have a Section 1.5, or a Table 1.1A.

why do they bother printing it , if it is not relevant.

 

[salem2000]

Just thought I'd drag this one up again...........

Approved Document F 2006 (Ventilation)

Section 1 Dwellings, Subsection 1.5 (page 10)

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Just thought I'd drag this one up again...........

Approved Document F 2006 (Ventilation)

Section 1 Dwellings, Subsection 1.5 (page 10)

As I said - the Building Regulations do not have a Section 1.5, or a Table 1.1A.

 

[FingRinal]

If you are a ventilation expert - in all areas including technical, practical and legal, you may decide to ignore the Approved Douments if you are confident you can satisfy the actual Building Regs. by other means.

It's like stating that there are no Domestic Electrical Installation laws, regulations, act of parliament etc. and so the Wiring Regs can be ignored, the OSG can be ignored, the IEE Guidance Notes can be ignored, all college courses and qualifications can be ignored, all Part P Schemes can be ignored, the ESC can be ignored etc.....

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If you are a ventilation expert - in all areas including technical, practical and legal, you may decide to ignore the Approved Douments if you are confident you can satisfy the actual Building Regs. by other means.

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea to take the guidance given, just pointing out that the regulations don't require a fan.

It's like stating that there are no Domestic Electrical Installation laws, regulations, act of parliament etc.

No - that would be like saying there are no Building Regulations. Which there are, and coincidentally that's where you'll find the "Domestic Electrical installation" legal requirements.

and so the Wiring Regs can be ignored, the OSG can be ignored, the IEE Guidance Notes can be ignored,

But those can - you can choose other ways to comply with Part P if you wish.

all college courses and qualifications can be ignored,

Don't follow your logic there..

all Part P Schemes can be ignored,

They can - membership is not compulsory, and anyone, even a full time professional electrician is perfectly free to follow the pre-notification route.

the ESC can be ignored etc.....

ESC?

 

[securespark]

Does he mean ESQCR 2002?

In which case, as it has a year after it, it is law.