Wonder who wrote that one, isn't two men twice the risk of someone's head getting banged?
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If one man bangs his head, will the other be able to safely extract him from the loft... This may be a three man job!!.. Don't forget to wear high vis vests.. Bump caps, breathing apparatus for the dust from the rockwool.. A torch just in case the bulb in the loft fails.. Lifting apparatus to winch the injured man from the loft and an air ambulance on stand by on the closed off road outside... Police at each end of the road... Armed marksmen on the roof.. Special armed services in a Land Rover round the corner.....
Put Corgigrouch in charge of the HSE for a safer bankrupt Britain...
Put Corgigrouch in charge of the HSE for a safer bankrupt Britain...
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namsag
Baxmax no i don`t flout the regs but as a repairer i would not be acting as a big jessie and thinking of any reason for not suffering a bit of discomfort to repair a boiler.
I would much rather trust my own ladder for access than some of the carp ones people install also i know my lighting is safe and where i will want it
Ok you may have to suffer a bit of discomfort and sit on a couple of joists to work.
But all that is just NCS and is not AR or ID .
Nothing worse than standing on a floor in a loft and up it flips and you nearly go through ceiling.
Corgigrouch you forget insect killing sprays for when you find a wasps nest up there and god knows what we would do if there is mice rats or birds
I would much rather trust my own ladder for access than some of the carp ones people install also i know my lighting is safe and where i will want it
Ok you may have to suffer a bit of discomfort and sit on a couple of joists to work.
But all that is just NCS and is not AR or ID .
Nothing worse than standing on a floor in a loft and up it flips and you nearly go through ceiling.
Corgigrouch you forget insect killing sprays for when you find a wasps nest up there and god knows what we would do if there is mice rats or birds
I think the point trying to be made is, why do some installers install a boiler in an unboarded and often unlit loft and with difficult access on a wobbly old pair of steps. The boiler is sometimes 6m+ across the other side of the attic from the hatch, makes me wonder how they managed to get a 50kg lump across and hung (in the pitch black) with no flooring!
Surely it's worth laying down some B&Q finest chipboard and fitting a fluorescent to make everyones life easier! Is it me?
Surely it's worth laying down some B&Q finest chipboard and fitting a fluorescent to make everyones life easier! Is it me?
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Ok so your moaning about guys who don`t fit exactly to standard and make your life a little awkward. Do you also moan about the guys who leave filling loops connected and you don`t have to fart about asking the customer where they have put it. thus making your life easier
Its simple in this job there are always going to be NCS installations why bother about it just get on and do the job you are there getting paid to do.
There is a lot more important things in this job to worry about than a bit of dis comfort.
Its simple in this job there are always going to be NCS installations why bother about it just get on and do the job you are there getting paid to do.
There is a lot more important things in this job to worry about than a bit of dis comfort.
I carry a filling loop Gasman,I do consider that a little more than "discomfort" would be experienced if one was to crash through a ceiling,fall from a loft opening,stand on some dodgy 240 cable that has been chewed by a rat, etc... etc.... 
Do it right.
Do it right.
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And i bet you don`t stand on the cracks in the pavement incase the devil gets you
do you mean a davey lamp on a hard hat !!!!!!!!!!!
Now im no expert on these things but im pretty confident that BAXMAX is scared of the dark , likkle ickle spiders and not very good at balancing.
I`ve done lots of loft installs and only need 2 pieces of skirting board tied together and a candle to fit one with no problems.
This pathetic nanny state *******s is why this country is dying on its knees because people like you will find any excuse not to do a job, in fact you probably expand more energy avoiding work than it would take to do the job in the first place.
Just a point , how does a loft get boarded out in the first place, which came first , the boarded loft or the light needed to board it out, how did sparky work on electrics in the dark, aint that dangerous, especially with menacing spiders lurking in the dark everywhere.
Does this mean that sparkies nd joiners are more dispensible than us plumbers(on second thoughts dont answer that)
Have we got to the stage where we have to do a risk assesment before we do any job, doesnt common sense come into this somewhere and if someone doesnt have common sense then they should not have a job working in lofts, this hse crap is just their way of washing their hands of it if none of their criteria is met in an install and someone has an accident, well sir u ddnt follw paragraph 5 subsection c iii , all loft ladders must have non slip grippers and be painted yellow.
Anyway i could rant on for ages , but at the end of the day if you dont want a job which may req going into lofts get a job cutting grass for the council(or does your hayfever prevent this)
I`ve done lots of loft installs and only need 2 pieces of skirting board tied together and a candle to fit one with no problems.
This pathetic nanny state *******s is why this country is dying on its knees because people like you will find any excuse not to do a job, in fact you probably expand more energy avoiding work than it would take to do the job in the first place.
Just a point , how does a loft get boarded out in the first place, which came first , the boarded loft or the light needed to board it out, how did sparky work on electrics in the dark, aint that dangerous, especially with menacing spiders lurking in the dark everywhere.
Does this mean that sparkies nd joiners are more dispensible than us plumbers(on second thoughts dont answer that)
Have we got to the stage where we have to do a risk assesment before we do any job, doesnt common sense come into this somewhere and if someone doesnt have common sense then they should not have a job working in lofts, this hse crap is just their way of washing their hands of it if none of their criteria is met in an install and someone has an accident, well sir u ddnt follw paragraph 5 subsection c iii , all loft ladders must have non slip grippers and be painted yellow.
Anyway i could rant on for ages , but at the end of the day if you dont want a job which may req going into lofts get a job cutting grass for the council(or does your hayfever prevent this)
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Being a mistrusting SOB, I always treat boarded lofts with suspicion... Sods law says I will be the one to find the board that is not screwed down
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Thank fek the real people have shown there hand instead of the people who expect the perfect world. What do we want a boiler fitted perfectly without the boards etc installed. Or the perfect installation with boards etc and a ashite install in general. I know what i would prefer to work on
Slightly off topic I know but the thing that bursts my f@cking @rse the most is CWST stuck up in the eaves with no access to the ballvalve which is usually at the opposite end and stuck hard against the gable wall and no f@cking stopcock/isolating/gate valve at the tank or anywhere near it in fact what is it with plumbers and valves or the lack thereoff?
Does my nut right in that and householders who pile about ten tons of junk in front of said tank and who then say "there's a wee bit of stuff in the loft son,d
'you think you'll manage?" Arghhhhh!!
Does my nut right in that and householders who pile about ten tons of junk in front of said tank and who then say "there's a wee bit of stuff in the loft son,d
'you think you'll manage?" Arghhhhh!!
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