Moving boiler into loft

cycloneuk · 16 Nov 2020

Our boiler is currently located in a small bedroom, we are looking to relocate it into the loft to make the bedroom a little bigger, we I know the loft needs to be boarded, guard rail and lights, is there anything about the loft hatch being above a steep flight of stairs?

I would need to have a 3m loft ladder installed, I'm just concerned about the current loft hatch location being above the stairs and if that would still meet regulations. I'm trying to work out a rough cost at the moment.

CBW · 16 Nov 2020

cycloneuk said:
is there anything about the loft hatch being above a steep flight of stairs?

wouldn’t have thought it was good practice.

ianmcd · 16 Nov 2020

You are very ill advised to fit a boiler in your loft

Mottie · 16 Nov 2020

I’ve had my boilers in my loft since about 1992. No problems because of it but I did once have a fat gas engineer that couldn’t get through my loft hatch. They had to send a thinner one round. Oh, and when I had my system changed to a sealed one a few years ago with a new programmer, the electrician they sent round to connect up wouldn’t go up in the loft because he declared that "he didn’t do lofts". They had to send an apprentice round to go up in the loft, take a picture of how the existing boiler was connected up with his phone and show that to the lazy sparks so that he could connect up downstairs!

durhamplumber · 16 Nov 2020

Mottie said:
declared that "he didn’t do lofts"

Many engrs are not keen on lofts..Especially manufacturers Guys and they will do anything to pick fault..lights being not correct..boards not correct..etc.Any leaks are straight through the ceiling...as said..all in all many loft boilers are a pain

ianmcd · 16 Nov 2020

If you have a sealed system, the boiler in the loft is the highest part of the system, so any pressure loss and boiler will cut out , do you really want to be pulling your loft ladder down and going up there everytime the boiler needs attention?

Mottie said:
I’ve had my boilers in my loft since about 1992.

Whoopie Doo, we used to send small children up chimneys to clean them, doesnt make it right

dal5band · 16 Nov 2020

My son just bought a house with the boiler in the loft and its 14 years old - it is a pain. A filling loop and pressure guage has been installed in the old airing cupboard where all the pipes come down - that helps to keep an eye on the pressure. A good point is that the water is clean up there ( looked in filter installed on the return) as the black stuff is kept down by gravity.
I wander if any of the manufacturers offers a remote control panel ?

Mottie · 16 Nov 2020

ianmcd said:
If you have a sealed system, the boiler in the loft is the highest part of the system, so any pressure loss and boiler will cut out , do you really want to be pulling your loft ladder down and going up there everytime the boiler needs attention?

Are you saying it wouldn’t cut out with a pressure loss if it was on the ground floor? I can honestly say that I have never had that problem in 28 years. Its only been a sealed system for about 4 years. Before that it was vented. If I had to keep going up there everytime the boiler needs attention, I’d get the bloody thing fixed as there would be something wrong with it wouldn’t there? Walking down my street looking at the other houses, I’d say nearly 40% of them have their boilers in the loft.

Bodd · 16 Nov 2020

ianmcd said:
If you have a sealed system, the boiler in the loft is the highest part of the system, so any pressure loss and boiler will cut out , do you really want to be pulling your loft ladder down and going up there everytime the boiler needs attention?

Whoopie Doo, we used to send small children up chimneys to clean them, doesnt make it right

If ever I put a boiler in the loft I will put a filling loop and gauge in the airing cupboard or somewhere convenient so a the home oner doesn't have to get into the loft.

Bodd · 16 Nov 2020

ianmcd said:
If you have a sealed system, the boiler in the loft is the highest part of the system, so any pressure loss and boiler will cut out , do you really want to be pulling your loft ladder down and going up there everytime the boiler needs attention?

Whoopie Doo, we used to send small children up chimneys to clean them, doesnt make it right

Don't make it wrong either

Mottie · 16 Nov 2020

Bodd said:
If ever I put a boiler in the loft I will put a filling loop and gauge in the airing cupboard or somewhere convenient so a the home oner doesn't have to get into the loft.

That’s where my filling loop and pressure gauge is - in the airing cupboard in my hall. The boiler is in the loft for my convenience - not the convenience of the bloke who services it once a year.

Bodd · 16 Nov 2020

Mottie said:
That’s where my filling loop and pressure gauge is - in the airing cupboard in my hall. The boiler is in the loft for my convenience - not the convenience of the bloke who services it once a year.

As long as that loft is kitted out per regs, The boiler has a frost stat and the pipes are insulated well: then no problem

Mottie · 16 Nov 2020

Bodd said:
As long as that loft is kitted out per regs, The boiler has a frost stat and the pipes are insulated well: then no problem

I think so. It has a proper floor, has good lighting, the pipes are insulated and the boiler has a frost stat. It’s a fair distance from the hatch too so you’d have to be a right plum if you fell through there when working on it.

Bodd · 16 Nov 2020

Im not sure but think floor need to be 25mm thick .. Offhand not sure.. Please correct me someone.

Mottie · 16 Nov 2020

Oh well, mines 19mm ply. 25mm seems a bit OTT. Normal floors aren’t that thick are they?

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