Boiler location

Donquick · 24 May 2007

Hi,

I want to have my boiler moved from the kitchen (downstairs) to the bathroom upstairs for various practicality reasons.

The system is pumped indirect hot water and microbore heating with motorised valve, room stat and cylinder stat. Cylinder is sited upstairs next to bathroom where i want the new boiler and the system is not a sealed system. Automatic bypass and TRVs are to be fitted to system at same time as new boiler.

I have bought the new boiler. It is a standard gas condensing unit (i.e. not a system boiler) and will use all of the pipework etc of the old unit pretty much without too much changing.

I am being told that there may be a problem with siting the boiler upstairs because it will mean that there is no longer a continuous fall on the vent (expansion) pipe to the header tank.

It is true that this is the case and the circuit would go down under the floor and then back up the wall breaking the continuity of the fall, but i have seen hundreds of boiler plumbed from the floor up and not the ceiling down.

I really want to have the unit moved to the bathroom. Can anybody tell me if there is truth to this problem, and if so is it a minor consideration/efficiency consideration, or is it an absolute must.

Thanks for your help,

Don

Agile · 24 May 2007

One hopes that you will have a competent corgi registered engineer to install the boiler.

He will be able to give you the appropriate advice appropriate to your layout.

Tony

gas4you · 24 May 2007

If you cannot get a continuous 'rise' in the vent pipe I would recommend you install a system boiler and do away with the f&e tank! Take yours back and swap it over

DIYsaster · 24 May 2007

i agree-there is a reason why we have to re-prove our competence as gas engineers EVERY five years. this is the type of installation that we have to deal with day in-day out, where the only reason it keeps breaking down is because it is a poorly installed B&Q's finest. i really hope somebody can inspect it and give you the correct advice, but that is a near impossible one to advise on over the internet.

Donquick · 24 May 2007

Thanks chaps,

Yes i am having it installed properly, but i bought it myself because it was a very good deal. This also means that i can't ake it back.

As for a system boiler, apart from the problem that i can swap the unit i now have, I can't see the sense in changing all the pipework, pump etc. when i can just replace like for like.

DIYsaster, what are the extra considerations that would make it possible to do. Maybe i can have something else changed in the setup to alow me to make it work ?

Thanks again,

Don

corgiman · 24 May 2007

Donquick said:
Thanks chaps,

Yes i am having it installed properly, but i bought it myself because it was a very good deal. This also means that i can't ake it back.

As for a system boiler, apart from the problem that i can swap the unit i now have, I can't see the sense in changing all the pipework, pump etc. when i can just replace like for like.

DIYsaster, what are the extra considerations that would make it possible to do. Maybe i can have something else changed in the setup to alow me to make it work ?

Thanks again,

Don

Have you got someone willing to fit a boiler that you supplied??

Gasman1015 · 25 May 2007

Do away with the expansion tank and have the system converted to a sealed
system, using the boiler you have bought.

Donquick · 26 May 2007

Gasman1015,

Thanks, I think that is my best way out of the situation. I will ask about that option.

Thanks for the post.

Don

Corgiman,

Yes thanks, Why, wouldn't you ?

Don

corgiman · 26 May 2007

Donquick said:
Gasman1015,

Thanks, I think that is my best way out of the situation. I will ask about that option.

Thanks for the post.

Don

Corgiman,

Yes thanks, Why, wouldn't you ?

Don

because if the boiler goes wrong you then have to deal with the manufacturer, but most people just shout at the installer as a default. But if the installer did nt purchase it he can do nothing

just more trouble than its worth for most installers, but it dont matter as you have got one willing to do it

gas4you · 26 May 2007

I agree with corgi. If I ever fit a customer supplied appliance I only ever warrant my actual work. If they have an appliance problem then I clearly state that they will be charged my normal fees to check it out if they want me to inspect it before they call out manufacturer under warranty. (before I take on the job)

That is what my mark up on the boiler covers when I supply and fit. You cant have your cake and eat it

Donquick · 26 May 2007

Thinking about what you say, I can see a lot of sense in all that.

I think the corgi guy i know knows me well enough to know that i wouldn't try to blame him for that sort of problem, but generally I can see that this wouldn't be the case.

corgiman · 26 May 2007

Donquick said:
Thinking about what you say, I can see a lot of sense in all that.

I think the corgi guy i know knows me well enough to know that i wouldn't try to blame him for that sort of problem, but generally I can see that this wouldn't be the case.

well thats alright then

wow an understanding customer you are a rare thing indeed.

lets hope you feel that way on a cold wet day and your boiler breaks down

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