Same here, to be honest. In fact, any hybrid, to me, is a bad idea. Worst of both worlds! I think a lot of them are simply just cynical attempts to get a better CO2 emissions figure on paper. They look good in the type approval emissions test because they can do a lot of the drive cycle on their battery.
The phase out of ice engines..
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Same here, to be honest. In fact, any hybrid, to me, is a bad idea. Worst of both worlds! I think a lot of them are simply just cynical attempts to get a better CO2 emissions figure on paper. They look good in the type approval emissions test because they can do a lot of the drive cycle on their battery.
Plus, it's the only way to wean some off pure ICE, even though they only cover a couple of hundred miles a month 
Plus, it's the only way to wean some off pure ICE, even though they only cover a couple of hundred miles a month
I once saw them described on an American forum as "training wheels for Luddites"...
We've been here before though. For some years, steamships did still carry sails!
Me too!Is it just my age, or do others have a mental image of very large lead-acid cells when they see "traction battery" ? Yeah I know it's the right term, but mentally I can't help associating it with "stuff from the distant past"
I thought I was being clever by using the correct term, but in reality my knowledge of the subject is minimal.
I'm an ICE guy through & through, but the combination of many short journeys (under 5 miles) together with our ability to re-charge on the driveway does lead me to at least consider a plug-in hybrid which finance dictates would have to be pre-owned .. hence my question.
They exist so that car manufacturers can continue selling combustion engines for longer.
They have no other purposes or benefits.
Mileage, and the smaller capacity the battery is, the less time it will last.
Hybrids with tiny batteries could easily be fully charged/discharged several times a day even with modest distances covered and that will quickly ruin any battery.
Used hybrid vehicles should be given a big swerve. All the worst aspects of other cars bundled up into a package of expensive failures just waiting to happen.
Speaking as someone with experience of both ICE and EV, that's like saying "I'll steer clear of a shag, as I'm a w@nk man myself"
Don't see the connectionSpeaking as someone with experience of both ICE and EV, that's like saying "I'll steer clear of a shag, as I'm a w@nk man myself"
Don't see the connection
Ruling out something you've not experienced, coz you are happy with what you already know
'Ah yes I see, but not quite the case here as I'm prepared to at least consider the 'something' but I've zero experience of it .. hence the question.Ruling out something you've not experienced, coz you are happy with what you already know
The ideal use case for a full electric vehicle.
The ideal use case for a pre owned full electric vehicle.
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What about buying a full BEV, and then selling it again if it doesn't work out? Can you get by with a granny charger (can you suffer the slow rate of charge?), to avoid the costs associated with installing a charge point, until keep/sell decision time?
Nearly all the people I know who bought a hybrid, sold it again not long after. I don't think you'll find it sufficiently positive and highly likely unrepresentative BEV ownership
What's your total mileage (say) per month, and how often do you do more than (say) 100 miles in a day?
In the case of the former 400-450m, the latter .. rarely.
Hybrids seem to be unpopular for some reason, but I would have thought a combination of battery traction for the regular sub 5 mile journeys with ICE back-up for when the battery range is exceeded, or 'someone' has forgotten to plug the thing in, would be ideal.
Maybe I'm missing something?
For some reason, that may not be a representative sample.
