England now almost as densely populated as India

Ivor Windybottom · 2026-04-03T11:35:43+0100

Info from a YouTube video...

I haven't checked the numbers but it all sounds credible. Scotland and Wales are full of nothing, so the UK doesn't appear too terrible on average. But if you look at England alone, where most of us live, things are very bad.

King Billy · 2026-04-03T12:35:45+0100

Juvenile presentation of carefully selected criteria.
First of all the countries selected were only those above 10 million, immediately excluding over 100 countries.

And what a surprise, you fell for it!

Then there was additional re-shuffling of criteria.

Wake up Ivor.

noseall · 2026-04-03T12:38:34+0100

Ivor Windybottom said:
if you look at England alone

I'm looking...

Approximately 8.7% to 10.5% of land in England is developed or "built-up," according to recent statistics. This includes buildings, roads, and infrastructure, with the vast majority of the country (over 90%) remaining as agriculture, natural, or green urban space.

Glad I could help.

martygturner · 2026-04-03T13:01:56+0100

Errr what tripe, if you had any grasp of demographics you would of course realise that the UK is under populated and we need anothe 1-2 million working age people rapidly to support the now on rushing wave of the baby boomers who will become net takers rather than producers... just wo do you expect to pay all those pensions and NHS costs ...

try looking at our age sex demographics

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Charlie George · 2026-04-03T13:33:22+0100

martygturner said:
Errr what tripe, if you had any grasp of demographics you would of course realise that the UK is under populated and we need anothe 1-2 million working age people rapidly to support the now on rushing wave of the baby boomers who will become net takers rather than producers... just wo do you expect to pay all those pensions and NHS costs ...

try looking at our age sex demographics

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Unemployments increasing, house building dropping like a stone, NHS on its knees etc, these things need sorting out first, before we invite 2 million more

rds60h · 2026-04-03T13:48:33+0100

martygturner said:
Errr what tripe, if you had any grasp of demographics you would of course realise that the UK is under populated and we need anothe 1-2 million working age people rapidly to support the now on rushing wave of the baby boomers who will become net takers rather than producers... just wo do you expect to pay all those pensions and NHS costs ...

try looking at our age sex demographics

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Are you are naive enough to believe anything on Wikipedia ? The information on there is written by anyone who has access to the internet, which means that much of it is just what someone believes not based on any facts whatsoever, it contain more lies and fantasy than Aesop's Fables.

Ivor Windybottom · 2026-04-03T14:06:05+0100

King Billy said:
Juvenile presentation of carefully selected criteria.
First of all the countries selected were only those above 10 million, immediately excluding over 100 countries.

And what a surprise, you fell for it!

Then there was additional re-shuffling of criteria.

Wake up Ivor.

The sub-10m thing is reasonable. This excludes weird little places such as Monaco.

I'll ignore your usual brain-dead insults, proving that you're not so bright.

I think it's interesting. You don't like to think.

Ivor Windybottom · 2026-04-03T14:06:56+0100

martygturner said:
Errr what tripe, if you had any grasp of demographics you would of course realise that the UK is under populated and we need anothe 1-2 million working age people rapidly to support the now on rushing wave of the baby boomers who will become net takers rather than producers... just wo do you expect to pay all those pensions and NHS costs ...

try looking at our age sex demographics

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's pyramid scheme logic.

What about when all these imported workers retire? Import a load more?

Raising the retirement age is more logical. As has already been happening. People used to be near-dead at 60, not any more.

Brigadier · 2026-04-03T14:36:42+0100

Ivor Windybottom said:
Raising the retirement age is more logical

Already happening : it's called "the cost of living".

IT Minion · 2026-04-03T15:14:45+0100

Ivor Windybottom said:
Info from a YouTube video...

I haven't checked the numbers but it all sounds credible. Scotland and Wales are full of nothing, so the UK doesn't appear too terrible on average. But if you look at England alone, where most of us live, things are very bad.

Its interesting you decide to arbitrarily exclude the less populated parts of the UK but don't do the same for India.

Take Arunachal Pradesh, almost exactly the same size as Scotland but one fifth the population.

Arunachal Pradesh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or Rajasthan, the largest state which has almost exactly the same population as the UK and is half again the size.

Rajasthan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's almost like doing crude analysis doesn't tell us anything important about a country and doing cheap dishonest statistical tricks makes it easy to prove anything you like.

Who would have thought that 'Clown World' might not be the best source for reasonable analysis.

morqthana · 2026-04-03T15:36:50+0100

rds60h said:
Are you are naive enough to believe anything on Wikipedia ? The information on there is written by anyone who has access to the internet, which means that much of it is just what someone believes not based on any facts whatsoever, it contain more lies and fantasy than Aesop's Fables.

Are you naive enough to believe that Wikipedia articles may contain original research, and that nothing has to be referenced to existing external sources?

Are you naive enough to believe that much of Wikipedia is not based on any facts whatsoever and contains more lies and fantasy than Aesop's Fables?

There is a robust checking and editing process. You have access to the internet - try editing the article to say that it's all lies and fantasies, with no references to external sources of information to back that up, and see how long your edit lasts.

Denying the validity of all of this

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and this

Demographics of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

because it does not agree with your preconceptions is not a winning strategy.

noseall · 2026-04-03T15:38:11+0100

IT Minion said:
Who would have thought that 'Clown World' might not be the best source for reasonable analysis.

Daily Wail style tropes and conspiracy clap trap stories are designed for gullible people like Ivor. They lap it up.

Shmúcks.

Ivor Windybottom · 2026-04-03T15:43:04+0100

IT Minion said:
Its interesting you decide to arbitrarily exclude the less populated parts of the UK but don't do the same for India.

Take Arunachal Pradesh, almost exactly the same size as Scotland but one fifth the population.

Arunachal Pradesh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Or Rajasthan, the largest state which has almost exactly the same population as the UK and is half again the size.

Rajasthan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's almost like doing crude analysis doesn't tell us anything important about a country and doing cheap dishonest statistical tricks makes it easy to prove anything you like.

Who would have thought that 'Clown World' might not be the best source for reasonable analysis.

England is (or was) a country. It's not some arbitrarily hand-picked region.

There are lots of wide green spaces in England, e.g. the lake district, cornwall, etc etc. Despite all this it's still the 8th densest populated country in the world, which says what utter squalor people are now living in within the urban areas. E.g. house-sharing, even room-sharing.

IT Minion · 2026-04-03T15:45:55+0100

Ivor Windybottom said:
England is (or was) a country. It's not some arbitrarily hand-picked region.

There are lots of wide green spaces in England, e.g. the lake district, cornwall, etc etc. Despite all this it's still the 8th densest populated country in the world, which says what utter squalor people are now living in within the urban areas. E.g. house-sharing, even room-sharing.

Didnt you say earlier that you were only counting countries over 10 million? If so then you need to include that. 8th most densely populated large country perhaps. Your list of large countries doesn't even include Scotland.

Do you want to guess how many states in India have previously been countries?

Ivor Windybottom · 2026-04-03T15:51:54+0100

Well I think it's an interesting result. That England scores vastly worse than the UK, due to its grouping together with other much less densely developed areas.

Obviously it doesn't prove anything remarkable, but it certainly makes the point that we're up there with the worst. Yet we still bring more in.

I'd bet that the others in the top 20 or so don't have immigration figures as high as ours. When you're in a hole, stop digging.

England now almost as densely populated as India

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