A waste of life

lots of scam firms offer "graduate" jobs and then sell you on, having claimed the tax breaks for "apprentices".

If he has a paying job, in the field he studied, it would be a bad idea to do an internship. If he's macjobbing then it might be worth it.

Short term internships are pretty pointless, but he might get noticed.
 
morqthana said:
So who do you think should be doing those jobs?
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It isn't who I think should be doing them, my thoughts are when I see young people who are starting out in their working life being forced into working in these type of jobs because there isn't any alternative for them. If that is what they choose to do that is fine but I suspect many are doing it in order to simply have a job after many years of study and trying to better themselves to end up doing a job that isn't what they envisaged themselves doing.
 
A chap on GMB today had graduated with computer science, he had applied for 500 jobs before luckily landing one. At what point do you think that you just give up and go do something else. Such a shame for some people.
 
Highway Man said:
It isn't who I think should be doing them, my thoughts are when I see young people who are starting out in their working life being forced into working in these type of jobs because there isn't any alternative for them. If that is what they choose to do that is fine but I suspect many are doing it in order to simply have a job after many years of study and trying to better themselves to end up doing a job that isn't what they envisaged themselves doing.
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I think part of the challenge is, even more so in todays world, obtaining a degree in whatever subject doesn't afford you the right to a job/career in that specific field, or even a linked field. Hopefully, if it's a valuable degree, it will help the person now or in the future in terms of gaining decent employment even if not a related field to the qualification.

Trust me, I'm not knocking them, however I've seen first hand e.g. a younger person on QT saying 'I have a degree in engineering management, qualified three years ago and still haven't secured employment in that sector'. They have no right as such to expect a job in that sector, just because it's the field they've studied for. Uni's are businesses and will promote courses accordingly. Many students find the real world a very different proposition once they're out there touting themselves.
 
Brigadier said:
Questions the RW won't answer #101.....

Why do you believe that the 7th largest economy in the world is "doomed", "bankrupt", whatever, because of some occupants of rubber boats?
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It's not that long ago the UK was the 4th largest economy. Today the indigenous population is seen by the present government as a revenue stream to be taxed to the lowest common denominator.
 
diy_fun_uk said:
I think part of the challenge is, even more so in todays world, obtaining a degree in whatever subject doesn't afford you the right to a job/career in that specific field, or even a linked field. Hopefully, if it's a valuable degree, it will help the person now or in the future in terms of gaining decent employment even if not a related field to the qualification.

Trust me, I'm not knocking them, however I've seen first hand e.g. a younger person on QT saying 'I have a degree in engineering management, qualified three years ago and still haven't secured employment in that sector'. They have no right as such to expect a job in that sector, just because it's the field they've studied for. Uni's are businesses and will promote courses accordingly. Many students find the real world a very different proposition once they're out there touting themselves.
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I agree that nobody is entitled to expect a decent job but when you have studied for what might have been a dream of doing a particular job to find out that particular field is now out of reach must be devastating.
 
ReganAndCarter said:
Even with only a handful of O Levels I walked into a reasonable job. May seem like there's jobs out there now, but there's a higher percentage of low skill, service industry jobs. Good jobs with prospects and liveable wage are dwindling and competition for the few that exist is fierce.
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I did similar, after 2 carp apprenticeships my third gave me a career. Took me 35 years to get a professional registration, not a particularly high one, but even so I had to work for it.
But I was never out of work from the age of 14 - petrol pump jockey; 1s 6d per hour (earned more as tips - checking oil and tyres, washing windscreens, lights and mirrors). First apprenticeship I was paid 35% of a skilled mans wage - today that rate is a lot closer to a skilled mans wage.
 
Highway Man said:
I agree that nobody is entitled to expect a decent job but when you have studied for what might have been a dream of doing a particular job to find out that particular field is now out of reach must be devastating.
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Agreed. I'm not referring so much to the emotional side, just the practicalities and reality of it all.

It will become even more difficult to navigate due to AI. e.g. someone is entering into 3,4,5 years of study in a particular field. However another question in the mix is 'to what extent if any will AI be doing the stuff I'm studying for a career in?'
 
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