110mm solvent Tee question

[mderoy]

Can I ask - Is the other one possibly from one of the other sheds like TS?

Yea the grey Tee is from one online store. And the black reducer is from another. When I use a gauge to measure the diameter of the opening on the grey Tee it’s exactly 110mm and when I measure the black reducer on the 110mm end it measures at approximately 108/109mm

 

[Madrab]

The reason I ask is the TS have a make of plastic called Aquaflow and it seems to be a different size to the other manufacturers. Every other maker is just about interchangeable - as they should be given the nominal BS sizes of the pipe and fittings should be just about the same same.

Real nightmare when someone else has used it and you come along with standard fittings to make alterations and they are the wrong size.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

As above, all 110mm stuff, above and below ground, solvent or pushfit should be interchangeable, it's the Tool Station stuff that seems to be the exception now. Rather suspect they may be trying to encourage their customers to stick with their brand, but as Madrab has said, it doesn't help when you come across it and need to connect, when you've pipe and fittings from one of the many other manufacturers that you find doesn't fit properly....

Not sure if their is a case there for British Standards to look at as the TS stuff isn't to the accepted standard we've always worked with.

 

[mderoy]

So I picked up the 110mm coupler from screwfix where one side is 110mm push fit and the other side is 110mm solvent. But the solvent side is designed for a 110mm solvent pipe just like the grey Tee that I have. So I now need to put a small piece a 110mm pipe to join the screwfix black coupler with the grey tee as pictured in the attachment. The original black reducer that I was having issues with seems to fit very snugly into the push fit end of the new screwfix black fitting that has the push fit on one end. Which makes me believe that reducer was push fit all along.

But now here’s the dilemma. I’m looking on all the major stores, screwfix, TS, b&q, wickes etc for a solvent 110mm pipe but every single pipe these guys are selling all say ring seal and it has a sort of ring push fit on one end. So I just cannot seem to find anywhere that actually sells 110mm solvent weld versions of grey soil pipes. Anyone know where I can get this? The ring seal ones I’m assuming are not solvent weld types and won’t weld or fit tightly in solvent fittings?

 

[Madrab]

Most soil pipe these days is PVC-U, even the single (ring) socket ended pipe and as long as it is PVC-U then it can be glued. Most cements will also solvent weld ABS and PVC

 

[mderoy]

Most soil pipe these days is PVC-U, even the single (ring) socket ended pipe and as long as it is PVC-U then it can be glued. Most cements will also solvent weld ABS and PVC

So it wont be a smaller diameter and end up being loose when I try and put it onto a solvent coupler or connector?

 

[robinbanks]

Is all the aggro worth it to avoid push fit?

 

[denso13]

So it wont be a smaller diameter and end up being loose when I try and put it onto a solvent coupler or connector?

No, 110mm pipe is solvent weld. Unless you are mixing different makes, there is that danger.

 

[mderoy]

Is all the aggro worth it to avoid push fit?

Was thinking this but since I have a lot of the connectors as socket connectors already and want to use them that’s why I’d prefer to stick with the solvent. The end bit where the pan will connect and reduce from 90 to 110 will all be push fit.

The issue I was having with that black reducer is now solved though so it turns out it was definitely push fit hence why it was wobble about in that grey solvent tee. Solved by adding a push fit to solvent adaptor from screwfix

 

[Madrab]

it was definitely push fit

There shouldn't be any difference TBH - all 110mm PVC-u pipe would normally be able to fit either push fit or solvent weld couplings - 110mm is 110mm OD regardless of the connection type, if you see what I mean. As I say though, for some odd reason some makers don't seem to want to stick to the standards.