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He seems to have assumed that it is about 0.87mm thick.
Edit: whoops - somehow missed his post!
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You seem to get terribly upset when you feel wronged on this forum, but it doesn't stop you trying to upset others by defaulting to insults when folk say stuff you don't agree with.
What I mean is that if it is a requirement of gas regulations then it is the job of the gas man to do it. Whether it is a requirement of the gas regulations is less clear as I do not have a copy of these.
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I know what you meant, but I don't think it is necessarily true. It's far from impossible that the gas regulations (which neither of us have seen) require that any 'electrical work' required by the gas regulations is undertaken by "qualified electricians".
Kind Regards, John
That cannot be the case. Heating engineers do everything.
(Their, amongst others, registration was one of the original reasons for the CP schemes)
Even if it were, we could tell them it was neither necessary nor required.
I don't see how we could be compelled to do it.
(Their, amongst others, registration was one of the original reasons for the CP schemes)
Even if it were, we could tell them it was neither necessary nor required.
I don't see how we could be compelled to do it.
Sorry, Secure - I was led to believe that that was an acceptable way to phrase posts.
Ironic, given that, that Risteard should have liked your post. I guess he must think there is one rule for him, and a different one for others.
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Indeed, none of us do.
But to confirm, your attitude is that even if it is a legal requirement, you don't care about that.
So is it the view of electricians that even if via gas regulations, the law mandated it it, they would all refuse to do it even if asked because the Wiring Regulations do not mandate it?
Or have I misunderstood the position being expressed here:
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Or have I misunderstood the position being expressed here:
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If they are registered as a 'competent person' to do (amongst other things) things to electrical installations, then presumably they must be in some way trained/'qualified' to do such work?
We could indeed.
I agree - unless it is the case (which I don't think it is) that BS7671 requires relevant gas regulations to be complied with - and, even then, only for those constrained (by 'schemes', insurers, employers or whoever) to comply fully with BS7671.
On the other hand, I suppose there are situations in which an electrician is 'required' to comply with, say, parts of the Building Regs which are nothing to do with anything electrical - so it's not a clear-cut situation.
Kind Regards, John
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I would say that it was definitely clear-cut in that just as an electrician may not ignore the requirements of Part A, for example, when cutting away at the structure, or Part B, etc, he may not ignore any other regulatory requirements which apply to his work.
We don't know whether there is a requirement in the gas regs, but to dismiss the possibility by saying "Does anybody care what the gas pipe benders think?" is utterly fatuous.
And if there is a requirement it is unacceptable for a professional electrician to refuse to comply with it because it's not a requirement in the Wiring Regulations.
We don't know whether there is a requirement in the gas regs, but to dismiss the possibility by saying "Does anybody care what the gas pipe benders think?" is utterly fatuous.
And if there is a requirement it is unacceptable for a professional electrician to refuse to comply with it because it's not a requirement in the Wiring Regulations.
This is purely hypothetical because if such a regulation actually existed I am sure someone would have found it by now.
In any case, is it likely that a gas regulation would state that "main bonding must be fitted (regardless)" or is it more likely that it would state something like "electrical requirements regarding protective equipotential bonding must be complied with" or "it must be ensured that protective equipotential bonding is satisfactory".
Is it often the case that electricians are legally compelled to do things which are unsafe and not an electrical requirement?
Scenario:
Gas company is installing a supply to a house, fit supply pipe, fit meter - do they comply with said law and ensure main bonding is in place before going home?
Heating engineer installs system and connects to meter - does he comply with said law and ensure main bonding is in place before going home?
He might well do that - but that is the opposite of an actual professional electrician being forced to do that which he knows is unwise.
Note that all along I've been talking about IF there is a reg.
I think it is egregiously wrong to say "who cares if there is", and if there is a conflict between two different sets of requirements but one has the force of law it is not for individual professionals to disregard the law.
I think it is egregiously wrong to say "who cares if there is", and if there is a conflict between two different sets of requirements but one has the force of law it is not for individual professionals to disregard the law.
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