2 x 2G backbox question

[Sureitsoff?]

If two plates with four modules in each side by side could be acceptable instead of your pictured plate then Appleby do a joiner for metal boxes that spaces them perfectly

https://www.cef.co.uk/catalogue/products/6310-connector-for-coupling-metal-installation-boxes

and scolmore do a similar thing to join dry lining boxes together

GA100 - ‘Ezylink’ Dry Lining Box Connector

GA100 - ‘Ezylink’ Dry Lining Box Connector

scolmore.com

just seen the Screwfix price for the proper box for the ops front plate and that is cheap! at £3.99

 

[morqthana]

just seen the Screwfix price for the proper box for the ops front plate and that is cheap! at £3.99

And only £1.21 more than 2 x 2-gang boxes.

No brainer.

 

[SUNRAY]

Just seen this re the equivalent MK product.

View attachment 382727

I think laughs are being had.

They are!
However joking aside I believe there are inconsistancies across the makes and those may not be compatible with the double height plate

Also have you looked at these: https://www.screwfix.com/p/british-...mm/683xg#product_additional_details_container ?

I'm not sure if it's the exact version for the vertical spacing of the lugs though.

May require a partition to be crafted/installed but will provide additional internal space and not so fiddly to get 2 lots of wiring into 2 backboxes simultaneously...

 

[morqthana]

They are as I believe those are too cose together/not compatible with the double height plate

It's probably the right size for the MK combination plate it's sold to be used with....

May require a partition to be crafted/installed but will provide additional internal space and not so fiddly to get 2 lots of wiring into 2 backboxes simultaneously...

Thanks - reckon I'll be OK with the standard item.

 

[morqthana]

Fit the backboxes to the front plate correctly then super glue strips of wood(the coffee stirrers from Maccys,Costa etc are perfect) then the boxes will stay in the right place when you fit them in the wall

It's not relevant now, but this is bugging me, because I can't work out what you mean. Glue strips of wood to what?

 

[jj4091]

To the back of the outside of the individual boxes when they are screwed to the face plate and properlly aligned.So they are fixed together like the MK one you linked to

 

[morqthana]

Gotcha

 

[morqthana]

Screwfix part number 5072F, as this forum is currently destroying links to that place.

They still aren't working.

I reported it, and all I got back from the Moderators was:

So if they are still broken for you, could you also report it?

Plus anybody else affected. If they get multiple complaints they might look into it.

 

[SUNRAY]

They still aren't working.

I reported it, and all I got back from the Moderators was:

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So if they are still broken for you, could you also report it?

Plus anybody else affected. If they get multiple complaints they might look into it.

I have just reported it and I think I didso last week (but I can't be certain as I was away from home and the signals were sh1t3)

 

[morqthana]

To the back of the outside of the individual boxes when they are screwed to the face plate and properlly aligned.So they are fixed together like the MK one you linked to

Meccano and a pop rivet gun has got to be better than glued coffee stirrers, surely?

 

[JohnW2]

Meccano and a pop rivet gun has got to be better than glued coffee stirrers, surely?

Whatever one uses has only got to continue 'working' until one gets the box fixed to the wall, so I imagine that glued coffee stirrers would probably do fine.

 

[Sureitsoff?]

Coffee stirrers are free.....or builders banding ie grown up Meccano and rivets

 

[ebee]

I used to use a self made contraption sometimes.
Remember the old "Bar Boxes", so called because it was a dual metal box not a twin metal box and the plate with two 2.5mm screw threads was held in place usually with one screw and a lug hinge.
Undo the screw , temporarily remove it, lift out the box separator and fasten the (bar) plate back in.
Anyway using that "bar" as a guide with two correctly spaced screw holes could help alignment.
I did even sacrifice two of them bent over then soldered together place two 75mm long screws to give a jig with two parallel screw holes.
I probably still have it somewhere .
If I had suitable tools I would have a piece of square bar with two spaced threaded holes and perhaps a spacing bar underneath and that would have been more successful if I had have made one, although a simple clip in spacer would have been easier to use.
I know box dual metal ("Bar Box") and dual dry lining ("fastafix") were plentiful and a lot of years back a joiner brought to my attention the twin+single dry lining box which I was unaware of as a ready made item.

I wonder if a certain Mr Hughes (Yoozybox) ever produced such installing aids along with screw lug tap on inserts etc? Might have produced a fair useful range of aids for the street electrician house basher I suppose!

 

[morqthana]

I think that if I ever (presumably for reasons of vertical spacing) needed the MK one I'd get a piece of galvanised mild steel sheet and dig out my rivet gun.

 

[plugwash]

Also have you looked at these: https://www.screwfix.com/p/british-...mm/683xg#product_additional_details_container ?View attachment 383019

That is a triple row grid box.

Unfortunately BG don't give screw hole locations for their boxes or plates, but the overall height of the plate is.

single row - 86mm
Dual-row euro - 186mm
Dual-row combination 13A/Euro - 186mm
Dual-row grid - 147mm
Triple-row grid - 207mm

https://res.cloudinary.com/lu1/fl_attachment:BG_SPCDOC_EN_20230310AQ_EM-Front-Plates-White-Moulded/665174/Original.pdf

https://res.cloudinary.com/lu1/fl_attachment:BG_SPCDOC_EN_20230110AQ_800S-Combination-Plate/665078/Original.pdf

https://res.cloudinary.com/lu1/fl_attachment:BG_SPCDOC_EN_20210427JW_Nexus-Grid-Front-Plates-White-Moulded/665043/Original.pdf

With such a large discrepancy in overall plate size, I very much doubt the screwhole locations match up.