4G rollout at 800mhz range . . will kill freeview

[mdf290]

and could intefere with alarms in the 866mhz area..

Looks like money over common sense has prevailed again.

 

[Bodgeitandleggit]

It wont affect everbody except those who live up to 2km near a 4g mast...and the ones who are getting interference will have to fit a filter....but how much they will cost and who will pay for them............yeah joe public again

trials are under way and we are not far away from 4.5g or 5g using full duplex so lets see what problems that will bring along

 

[mdf290]

I guess it depends now on peoples desire to actually watch TV.

The content is getting dire now with ad breaks every 8 minutes.
I have just about given up watching TV at all my recent programmes watched via an online device not a TV.

I am on orange so will get this 4G but I don't want to watch programmes on a tiny screen nor do I want to watch any tv through my Laptop on a regular basis as the buffering drives me nuts.

The pubs are all shut and social interaction happens via facebook...

Think I will have to go and find a new life elsewhere.

 

[RF Lighting]

It's only going to affect people with crappy wireless alarms. A proper hard wired alarm as we've always said is the only type of system worth installing.

Think I will have to go and find a new life elsewhere.

Hooray!

 

[bernardgreen]

and could intefere with alarms in the 866mhz area..

Possibly, depends lot on the type of receivers used in the alarms.

Looks like money over common sense has prevailed again.

true when people choose to buy low cost wireless alarms and not invest in a more reliable wired system.

 

[mdf290]

Looks like money over common sense has prevailed again.

true when people choose to buy low cost wireless alarms and not invest in a more reliable wired system.

I was actually refereing to OFCOM selling frequencies not your particular fetish.

 

[mdf290]

Think I will have to go and find a new life elsewhere.

Hooray!

lol you have obviously been around the New Forest Estate in Leeds haven't you

 

[RF Lighting]

Don't worry I will do next time I'm over that way.

 

[chaindaisy]

".....It's only going to affect people with crappy wireless alarms. A proper hard wired alarm as we've always said is the only type of system worth installing...."

At 868MHZ there is more chance of internal interference in the modern home rather than from external influence. Whilst I am old school and hence an ardent 'wired' fan, We don't have problems with our trade installed wireless systems.

 

[Europlex]

Looks like money over common sense has prevailed again.

true when people choose to buy low cost wireless alarms and not invest in a more reliable wired system.

I was actually refereing to OFCOM selling frequencies not your particular fetish.

I would very strongly suggest that OFCOM knows a lot more about radio frequencies and possible interference than you.

 

[bernardgreen]

I would very strongly suggest that OFCOM knows a lot more about radio frequencies and possible interference than you.

They still have to "compromise" between demand from profit based commercial activity and allowing the mass of the population access to use of radio in a semi controlled way. A total ban on un-licenced wireless would lead to anarchy and severe disruption to legal users. Licence exempt channels are a way to allow the public to use radio but as it is not controlled as to who uses what and where then it is used at the user's risk and reliable service cannot be garanteed

The first mass "anarchy" happened when CB ( citizens band radio ) came to the UK. Un-licenced AM sets on 27 Mhz wiped out hospital paging systems and radio controlled aircraft among other things. Emergency treatments were delayed as staff could not be radio paged and there was at least two incidents where out of control model aircraft caused injury and damage.

The government was forced to allow those systems to move to other channel and in reality 27 Meg was abandoned to the CB fanatics.

 

[chaindaisy]

I have no reason to doubt your comments regarding CB jamming, but why are they still using the same frequencies in America. The Superstar 360 transciever is capable of a few hundred frequencies both on AM and FM but it is still used out there. What's your take on that ?

 

[bernardgreen]

In the US CB radio pre-dated other services such as radio paging systems so when paging systems were set up they used frequencies clear of 27 MHz and its harmonics.

 

[chaindaisy]

Paging systems perhaps, I really wouldn't know about that. I need a bit more info:- while CB radio is active in the states, since the early seventies to my knowledge, it worked beside every other electronic device of it's day, now logically, what you are suggesting is that Medical equipment and possibly thousands of other devices in the U.S.A. steered clear of the 360 channels of both FM and AM with upper and lower sidebands with a 5 KC shift ... I would need some persuading, so perhaps you could give me a few examples of this "steering clear" besides the paging systems you have already mentioned, given that wireless security at 169 MHZ was prevalent at the time... I'm interested.