A 22-year-old Afghan national.

[morqthana]

If he was still in Afghanistan, he wouldn't have murdered anyone in the UK

So do you think that nobody at all from Afghanistan should be allowed to come here?

 

[morqthana]

Yep there was plenty of defending going on yesterday when I posted about it
Here is knave himmy john what ever its name is doing its best to put up a defence - this went on for about 5 pages.

What he was doing was objecting to your racism.

That guy in Uxbridge was killed by someone.

He was not killed by someone who was smuggled into the country, he was killed by someone.

He was not killed by someone who was given asylum, he was killed by someone.

He was not killed by someone who was from Afghanistan, he was killed by someone.

The method of arrival, status, or nationality of the killer are of absolutely no relevance to anybody who is not a racist.

Anybody who tries to link the fact that he killed to how he got here, or to whether he was given asylum, or to what his nationality is is a racist, pure and simple.

 

[morqthana]

Right look at all of this not defending him - this was from yesterday after I posted up the news link about it

Thank you for posting all those quotes, as they show that this was correct:

What he was doing was objecting to your racism.

 

[morqthana]

it is important to know the full details of who is committing crimes and the types of crimes they are committing - how else can policy be correctly aimed?

Presumably you mean a racist policy.

how else can we determine risk and avoid danger?

Presumably you mean racist determinations of risk.

there seems to be a disproportional amount of very serious crimes committed by migrants, how disproportional we don't know as the figures are hidden.

So if the figures are "hidden", how can you say that there's a disproportional amount of very serious crimes committed by migrants?

Presumably you mean it's a racist perception.

Why are the figures hidden ? If those figures categorically showed migrants committed less crimes on a pro rata basis then they would be shouting it from the roof tops.

Are they "hidden"? How do you know?

And who would be the "they" shouting from the rooftops?

It wouldn't be all the racists that you listen to, and you don't come across as someone who has ears for anything which is not racist.

Jeneriks claims that “Afghans and Eritreans are more than 20 times more likely to be convicted of sexual offences than British citizens” were said to be made up nonsense - so why were the real figures not published then to prove him wrong ? I'm sure Jenerik exaggerated a bit, but if he was so widely out then show us the real figures

How about a Plan B - you stop going on about the nationality of criminals irrespective of any figures.

 

[morqthana]

That fruit cake that was deported back to Ethiopia apparently kicked off and refused to get on the plane

They had to bung him £500 as an incentive

Incentive should be a tazor
Hand cuffs
Ankle cuffs
Straight jacket

And a smack

If he refuses to board the plane

You'll probably find that the pilots will refuse to take off if that happens, and/or that other passengers will have their travel experienced ruined.

Possibly even other passengers who you think you are "protecting" with your violence and thuggery.

Got any more so-unclever-they-beggar-belief ideas?

 

[pete01]

Too many people who are not asylum seekers have committed crimes.

What's your point?

See post #12 for my point, explained by fixitflav

 

[pete01]

Too many people who are not asylum seekers have committed crimes.

Let him off then

 

[Elsa TLC]

Because that's what barristers are supposed to do.

Now a question for you:

Why do people think that the nationality of a murderer is relevant?

Lets say we had 10 British serial killers that all killed 3 innocent women and children each.
= 30 innocent dead

Then we had 10 foreign born serial killers that all killed 3 innocent women and children each.
= 30 innocent dead

= 60 innocent dead

Whats the greater number for you?

 

[fixitflav]

We don't do that.

Are you trying to be funny?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Lets say we had 10 British serial killers that all killed 3 innocent women and children each.
= 30 innocent dead

Then we had 10 foreign born serial killers that all killed 3 innocent women and children each.
= 30 innocent dead

= 60 innocent dead

Whats the greater number for you?

Your point being ?

 

[Elsa TLC]

So do you think that nobody at all from Afghanistan should be allowed to come here?

Ive read and heard of plenty of cases where men women and children should be able to live a good healthy life whilst integrating into the UK

 

[Elsa TLC]

Your point being ?

I think you get my point.

 

[pete01]

I think you get my point.

I never get these triva point making things it usually goes over my head but I'll try...

Ermm the 30 killed by the foreign serial killer would have been easier avoided as they probably shouldn't have been here?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I think you get my point.

Not at all.

Is either a worse scenario ?

 

[Elsa TLC]

I never get these triva point making things it usually goes over my head but I'll try...

Ermm the 30 killed by the foreign serial killer would have been easier avoided as they probably shouldn't have been here?

Correct

Only 30 families instead of 60 families life's have been shattered