there is a whole campaign against what this site and people like you are doing and there is some pretty big organisations with government backing that will stop you
Prove it.
Show me any documentary evidence of this.
there is a whole campaign against what this site and people like you are doing and there is some pretty big organisations with government backing that will stop you
I am off now anyway................ta ta
No - that was someone else. You made a sarcastic comment about the regs not requiring proper punctuation and I suggested that if you're so concerned about the standards of what people write here you should perhaps pay more attention to the quality of what you write, but at no time have I tried to judge what you say on the basis of how you say it.Seems to me the only arguments you have are nit picking at my punctuation
Unskilled people can buy books.and trying to make sone of my comments into some thing that I have not said quote burn all the books sorry dont get you matey I was talking about electrics and un skilled people
No - but I can see what it does say.check out page 22 iee regs competent person cant see anywhere it says a person that has been told what to do by someone they have never met or known on a forum that may or may not be competent themselves can you BAS
What if I had none - what would you say then?It is very clear that your life has been spent in books like I said have the courage of your conviction and list your qualifications
Like the way that the authors and publishers of books accept responsibility for their advice you mean?and provide a statement that you are willing to accept the responsibility of your advice easy isnt it
Yes - apologies - I misread your post - I thought you were asking about the reason that Part P was introduced, and what the raison d'etre of the Competent Person schemes is.they are there to protect there members?I think you will find they are there to protect consumers and to make sure the work is done to an approved standard and protect people and property
I've already given a straightforward response to your request.and what I am suggesting is that you prove at the very least are prepared to take responsibility for the advice you are giving and provide some form of evidence that you are in a position to give that advice or are you as it looks trying to side step the requestby twisting my words
How strange that you should ask me not to tell you the truth.FITTING LV lights in ceiling do not tell me you did not try and make me look bad BAS
In the same way that authors and publishers of books accept responsibility you mean?no it is advice on a subject that is potentialy dangerous and that advice could kill people and if you are prepared to be giving that advice on the understanding that people are going to follow it[otherwise why give it] then you should also be willing to accept responsibility for that advice and its outcome
Please feel free to correct any bad advice that you find here.and also be able to prove that you are in a position to give that advice in the first place
Please feel free to point out any incorrect advice that you find here.people come to this site and take advice in good faith because they have no or little knowledge themselves on the subject.They expect this advice to be correct
Please feel free to highlight any lack of competence as demonstrated by poor quality advice given here.and act upon that advice believing that advice to be from a competent person
In the same way that authors and publishers of books are held responsible you mean?therefore the person giving that advice should be held responsible for the outcome
Please feel free to highlight any bad advice given here because people don't list their qualifications.and also proof of there position to give that advice checkable
Please feel free to show where bad advice has been given because those giving it don't list their qualifications.So what exactly is the problem with people giving advice on this site having there qualications checked
In the same way that authors and publishers of books are held responsible you mean?and being held responsile for the advice they give
Please explain the logic which leads you to conclude that people who choose not do do what you think they should have something to hide.Surely it would only be a problem to people who have something to hide correct
You're showing signs of losing the plot now.....so therefore practicality is more inportant than peoples lifes is this a good atttitude for an electrician
So you think.The problem of who would check qualifications on a forum like this should of been thought about by who evers site it is
"Allowed" to give.and as for should an un qualified member be banned from giving advice you are a spark?what do you think do you think someone with out proven industry knowledge be allowed to give advice I think you know my answer
That's a fact is it?the fact is unless there is something to hide no one would mind registering there qualifications
In the same way that authors and publishers of books take responsibility you mean?and taking responsibility for there advice they give
I'll leave Gary to explain anything he is or is not implying, but as for whether what you think is bad, you would have to show that advice given here is unsound because people don't prove their qualifications for it to be seen as rational.GaryMo are you implying I am not qualified or have relivent experience or registration or are you saying that the fact I think electrical work and advice on electrical work should only be given by provable competent people is bad
And that's a good analogy for a site advising people on DIY in what way exactly...?If you needed an operation would you go to a doctor without qualifications or experience or a forum and ask for information and do it yourself
I hope he'll forgive me for speaking on his behalf, but maybe it's because he thought it important to protect consumers and to make sure his work is done to an approved standard and protect people and property?GaryMo I was NOT asking you to pass any thing I was asking you why you bothered to get qualified
Actually no - it doesn't work like that.as for proving that some information has saved lives it would be far more important for you to prove that it has not caused deaths or injuries which you CAN NOT.
Feel free to show examples of advice which is unsound because people haven't proved that they are in a position to give it.Lets remember what this was about and that was people here giving advice without proving they are in a position to do so
Now you are talking about the self-certification schemes, so I can accurately reply that they are there in order to increase the influence and control of electricians' trade bodies for the benefit of their members but mostly for their own benefit.and being tracable
in case a death or accident is caused because of your advice OK is that not another reason self certification schemes are there for so the person/s doing the work have to prove thier competence and are tracable
Remind me again what the point of you being here is?My argument has been laid before you ok you are too blind to see it PROVE YOU HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED TO A DANGEROUS SITUATION TELL ME WHY YOU THINK THAT THIS SITE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A HOW TO DO LIST FROM B and Q AND TELL ME WHY WE SHOULD BOTHER HAVING TRADES THERE IS JUST A FEW POINTS
LIKE I SAID FAR TO BUSY PAVING YOUR WAY TO HEAVEN AND SHOWING OFF
That's a fact is it?You dont KNOW anything of the sort I think assume is the word you are looking for but every one you have given advice to that is non competent HAS been put in a dangerous situation by YOU and that IS A FACT
Why don't you start thinking about the FACT that nobody is agreeing with your position?because YOU have ecouraged them to do something they are NOT competent to do WAKE up you are skilled you make caltulated desicions those you have helped have at best been lucky THINK ABOUT IT
Really?at the end of the day mate I am not the only person that dissagrees with you there is a whole campaign against what this site and people like you are doing and there is some pretty big organisations with government backing that will stop you
Not for good, I hope - surely after your repeated challenges to people here to list their qualifications you won't fail to respond to the challenges you have been set to show how bad advice is being given here?I am off now anyway
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