Adding outside light - please help

[round01]

Evening,

Ive been asking by an elderly neighbour to add some outside lights to the front and back of the house. She is scared she might fall in the dark.

Ive fitted the back flood light to the cable her son chased in 6/7 years ago and hasnt bothered to come back and sort. and ran a new cable for the front light to the existing switch in the house: scenarios below:

Back light - existing kitchen light is controled by 2 x 1g switches either end of the room. Ive fitted the led floodlight (see pic) and tried to wire up to a new 2g switch (see pic of original 1g wiring and what i think i should be doing to the new 2g switch) kitchen light still works but outside light doesnt - can someone advise what ive done wrong please?

Front light - again fitted light and ran cables but not attempted to wire yet (pic of existing 2g switch which i can hopefully change to a 3g for this to work) will it be the same logic to the back light when i finally fingure out whats going wrong

Thanks for your help guys

 

[ericmark]

Most switches do not have a neutral wire. Where are you getting your neutral from?

 

[round01]

this is how it was when i opened it up...

 

[pete01]

You've run a cable from light to switch?

Is there a neutral in the back of the switch in a connector block?

 

[round01]

Yes, just run cable to the switch. Her son put the cable in for the back light. I put cable through for the front light switch (last pic)

No neutral in a connector block

 

[pete01]

You need to run another cable to the light to get a neutral.

 

[round01]

Which light? The new outside one? These are the t+e to the new light. The rest were already their wired into the 1g switch in the same positions apart from the link between the com

 

[pete01]

Whichever light that switch originally controlled, ...yes kitchen...

And the link will need to go into L12 probably

 

[round01]

This is the original 1g switch wiring. Isnt one of these the neutral from the kitchen light? I took just the black one out and the kitchen light went off...

 

[trojanhawrs]

This is the original 1g switch wiring. Isnt one of these the neutral from the kitchen light? I took just the black one out and the kitchen light went off...

Unlikely, open up the kitchen light and take a picture of the wires in there - likely you're going to need in there anyway.

Also, turn the power off if you're going to be messing about with the wires you dafty.

 

[pete01]

This is the original 1g switch wiring. Isnt one of these the neutral from the kitchen light? I took just the black one out and the kitchen light went off...

No

 

[EFLImpudence]

 

[sparkwright]

Where are you going to get the neutral from?

 

[sparkwright]

You need to rethink this for both lights.
You need to get a neutral from the same circuit that you are getting each live from.
For example, where you are obtaining the live from the kitchen light switch, you could perhaps get the neutral from the kitchen light.

Alternatively, scrap what you've done, and get the the live, neutral and earth from the socket circuit, via a switched fused connection unit.

 

[round01]

Thanks guys. Just thinking, i could spur off a socket (both have double soxkets below) into a sfs with a 3a fuse as the switch? Would that work? Saves chasing into ceiling and running the neutral from the light