The 0.5m gap they require is utter bull$hit.
There are appeal cases where a gap of 25mm is deemed OK; as long as there is no physical connection between the side and rear eaxtensions, they will have to accept the prior notification.
Advice please for a rejected Prior Notification of Householder Extension
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There are appeal cases where a gap of 25mm is deemed OK; as long as there is no physical connection between the side and rear eaxtensions, they will have to accept the prior notification.
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If it is attached to the house, it will be classed as an extension - nothing to do with classification of a dwellinghouse.SMH
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...der_Technical_Guidance__-April_2017_FINAL.pdf
General issues p6
"Dwellinghouse" definition, and in context of other terms throughout the document.
ie there is no reference to garages being part of a dwelling house, but there are references to garages in other contexts. Which means that if garages were meant to be regarded as part of a dweilling house, then they would have been defined as such.
Unless there are appeal precedents to the contrary, then a garage is not part of the dwelling house, but is a distinct building within the curtilage.
WTF? Good luck with that!
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...der_Technical_Guidance__-April_2017_FINAL.pdf
General issues p6
"Dwellinghouse" definition, and in context of other terms throughout the document.
ie there is no reference to garages being part of a dwelling house, but there are references to garages in other contexts. Which means that if garages were meant to be regarded as part of a dweilling house, then they would have been defined as such.
Unless there are appeal precedents to the contrary, then a garage is not part of the dwelling house, but is a distinct building within the curtilage.
How can the existing garage be classed as an extension?
The issue is building past the "side elevation of the existing dwelling house".
I'm not sure what you mean by the extension?
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WTF? Good luck with that!
Do you always laugh at what you don't understand?
You must laugh a lot.
Have you been hitting the wacky baccy hard today woods?
OK, 'extension' is the vernacular for 'enlargement' as it is referred to in the GPDO.
But I still can't fathom why you think an extension forming a garage is a curtilage building; curtilage buildings are supposed to be detached, free-standing structures.
So should i just keep a gap of 25mm and reapply?
Yes but don't forget a proper block plan.
do i just buy the block plan online or does the architect need to draw it. thanks in advance.
Yes, that''s what I'd do, and if they send it back again, you should do the following;
1. ask them what statute or regulation requires a gap of 0.5m; (there are appeal cases where gaps of 5cm and 2.5cm have been accepted as
being separate structures - they are just trying it on) and;
2. remind them that the 42-day clock is ticking, and that if they reject it again, you will ignore that, and start
building after 42 days, because by then it would be permitted development by default.
I'd hesitate to use the word 'architect', he wants shooting really, it's the only humane thing to do. It needs to show all the info I said it needed to in my earlier post.
Don't do either.
You don't need a 'proper block plan' for a PN application - a simple, freehand sketch will do; it doesn't even have to be to scale. Draw it on graph paper if you don't have a steady hand.
The whole object of the PN proceedure was that the householder could do the application himself, without having to pay professionals and other hangers-on.
Look, is perfectly simple. The OP is not building a garage. He's building an extension on the back of his house
The planners say that the OP's rear extension is not PD because it is (in their view) actually a side extension because it projects forward of an existing wall (the garage wall) forming a side elevation of the dwelling house.
In fact, the garage wall is not (according to the technical guide) part of the dwelling house. Therefore the proposed extension can not be projecting forward of a side elevation of the dwelling house (it's solely a rear extension) and so must be PD.
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