age of electrics

[scantronic]

Hi
I was wondering what the age of my electrics are and if they are original to the house which was built in 1953

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many thanks

 

[Taylortwocities]

Hard to say, without a detailed look on site.

Are those cables PVC-covered?

The last picture appears to show fabric covered rubber cables going into that MEMSET box (the insulation on those looks dodgy, by the way).

PVC cables started to be introduced in teh 1960s, so i would guess that some of it (the fabric covered bit) is probably about the same age as the house. The Wylex fuse board and associated wiring being newer - sometime in the swinging sixties.

But only a quick guess.

 

[scantronic]

Thanks
the memset box is in the garage and wylex in the house the cables in the house are black rubber cable and the garage is mostly in metal conduit it is old

Thanks again

 

[RF Lighting]

Yes it's almost certainly original to the house, and well overdue to be completely replaced.

 

[Luckyphil]

Yes , its well overdue an rewire , Though the Cables don't look too bad where they enter the Consumer Unit , You can guarantee that behind Switches & Sockets the insulation on the Cables will be perished , There is no RCD protection to any circuits as well.

Time to get the Pros in , then crack open the wallet !

Lucky

 

[sparkwright]

Deleted for not reading all the posts properly.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Guidance, from the Part P document, re TRS/VRI cables

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[GaryGarden]

I would get an EICR done if I were you that will tell you the condition of the wiring, it will also tell you if you have an earth at that toggle light switch.

 

[JohnW2]

I would get an EICR done if I were you ...

One could but, frankly, given what we are talking about, I think that would probably be a waste of money.

Kind Regards, John

 

[JohnW2]

Guidance, from the Part P document, re TRS/VRI cables ....

As a matter of interest, what "Part P document" does that come from? - it's obviously not in Part P itself, and nor is it in Approved Document P.

Kind Regards, John

 

[scantronic]

Here's some more pictures

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[Steve]

Rewire time. Don't waste money on any "upgrades" to this installation. It needs ripping out and starting again. I wouldn't be happy with anything else.

 

[Taylortwocities]

As a matter of interest, what "Part P document" does that come from? - it's obviously not in Part P itself, and nor is it in Approved Document P.

It is in the earlier (more helpful) iterations of the Approved Document. The latest (2013) version has removed anything of any value IMO.

Here's the link. The extract is in Appendix C.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_AD_P_2010.pdf

 

[JohnW2]

It is in the earlier (more helpful) iterations of the Approved Document. The latest (2013) version has removed anything of any value IMO.

Ah, thanks. I should have thought of that, but didn't think of looking in an older version.

As you will be aware, the 2013 version doesn't even have an Appendix C at all. I suppose that some clever clogs thought that this Appendix ("Older practice that can be encountered in Alteration work") which was included in 2006 was 'no longer required'in 2013. Little did (s)he know about the persistence of examples of 'older practices'

Kind Regards, John