Air pollution

Ok, but you know that Newcastle is significantly further west than London is ?

Although obs significantly further south, but then the prevailing winds are from the south west.
And newcastle is even more significantly,,quite a way north of london!..No matter which brand of physics,geography and meteorology you use,,,a westerly wind is not going to blow a fart from london to the toon!
 
London doesn't get pink snow either, mind you nor does Newcastle now, what with Consett shutting down. (ah... the childhood memories!)
 
Surprised to hear DP has never seen an image of cyclonic or anti cyclonic air movement.

Maybe he'll find out one day.

Try here

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-2.09,46.80,306


Or here

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public...&lon=-1.58&map=SatelliteVis&fcTime=1545002100
SO typical of you remoaners to change the argument out of all recognition to serve your own purposes. lets go from a westerly to a different pressure system so i can still be correct!!!..
 
And newcastle is even more significantly,,quite a way north of london!..No matter which brand of physics,geography and meteorology you use,,,a westerly wind is not going to blow a fart from london to the toon!
JohnD,,,,no mention of anti cyclones!!!!
 
Has anyone ever worked out the carbon footprint for producing a wind turbine?
Not just the different energies used in the manufacturing of one, which should include the energy used to power the factories as well as the machinery but also the original sourcing of the materials, steel, aluminium, copper etc. Once the various parts are made and partly assembled they then have to transport them to the site where more energy is used in the final assembly. But it doesn't end there. You have to use energy to route where the power cables for the collected energy go to, factor in the power used towards maintenance etc.

I know someone is going to come up with the argument that all other forms need to have these calculations thrown in as well, and I agree, however to get a TRUE cost of which is the most efficient way of obtaining energy you have to do what is called a Value Stream Map. This is where a Lean Practitioner comes into the equation. They have the knowledge of how to calculate all the data required and produce a true picture. Problem is governments don't really like them because they can often prove official statistics are incorrect.

From one the leading carbon footprint experts:
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And newcastle is even more significantly,,quite a way north of london!..No matter which brand of physics,geography and meteorology you use,,,a westerly wind is not going to blow a fart from london to the toon!
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Can't believe your still talking about farts.
 
Here's a funny joke

How many nuclear engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?

30,001

One to change it, and the others to guard the old one for the next 100,000 years.
 
From one the leading carbon footprint experts

A 100kw turbine takes 180 days to produce the amount of power it took to build.

Turbines take a lot of concrete, 300 cubic metres or so and a heap of re-bar!

Of course however much they produce, the capacity has to be mirrored by a power station.
 
Fusion, it's the way forward, just 10 years away as was said in 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000,2010 etc....
 
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