another child abuse gang caught and locked up for life

The fact is you have no clue.
No idea if BAMEs are over or under represented in Jail for sex offences
No Idea what CSA/CSE data has to do with adult men raping and trafficking kids
No idea why just 11% end up going to court
No idea why people get community service, caution or not in the public interest for rapes that are category 2A or worse
No idea how many white British men are jailed for raping and trafficking kids
No idea noseall as usual.
 
The fact is you have no clue.
No idea if BAMEs are over or under represented in Jail for sex offences
No Idea what CSA/CSE data has to do with adult men raping and trafficking kids
No idea why just 11% end up going to court
No idea why people get community service, caution or not in the public interest for rapes that are category 2A or worse
No idea how many white British men are jailed for raping and trafficking kids
No idea noseall as usual.
I'm sorry I cant help you with your irrelevant subject.

I can help you with this though...

There were 105'000 CSA offences recorded by the police in 2022/23. 17'801 of those offences were for rape. *88% of those offences (92'400) were carried out by white British men. (*up to 91%)

Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court for varying reasons i.e. 'evidential difficulties' or 'prosecution prevented or not in the public interest' or 'out of court resolution'.

1619 of those did end up with the offender being locked up, 482 of those for rape. What is your point?

This is, was and always will be a lie...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.
 
I've made my point.

You are certain, my statement is false, but you have zero understanding of the data, zero understanding of the offences, zero understanding of what makes up the vast majority of CSA/CSE offences.

Hint: It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.

The quotes you keep making, from the report you keep citing has almost no relevance to the above offences.
 
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I've made my point.
No you haven't. You have made vague irrelevant references to crime numbers that matter not.

You are certain, my statement is false
Correct.

, but you have zero understanding of the data, zero understanding of the offences, zero understanding of what makes up the vast majority of CSA/CSE offences.
So you keep saying. However, the report is unambiguous and specific, i.e.

In 2022/23 there were 105'000+ CSA offences recorded by the police in 2022/23. 17'801 of those offences were for rape. *88% of those offences (92'400) were carried out by white British men. (*up to 91%)

Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court for varying reasons i.e. 'evidential difficulties' or 'prosecution prevented or not in the public interest' or 'out of court resolution'.
the quotes you keep making, from the report you keep citing has almost no relevance to the above offences.
Eh? The report that specifically focusses on CSA offences in England and Wales, has nothing to do with CSA offences in England and Wales?

You say I have zero understanding of what makes up a majority of CSA offences? I beg to differ. Here is a table showing EXACTLY that...

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17'801 of those were for rape.

88%+ of CSA offences that year were carried out by white British men....


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It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.

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According to you how many adult men are jailed for child rape, each year and how many are white British men? Numbers not %ages please.
According to the 2022/23 report there were 482 men locked up for rape (England and Wales). What is your point?

How does it fit with your lying statement...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.


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I'm not going round and round in circles with you, you haven't a clue. Its obvious.
 
No idea if BAMEs are over or under represented in Jail for sex offences
Seeing as the people in prison for ALL sex offences has no bearing on sex offences committed upon children in a given year, how do you think posting it helps you with this...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.
No Idea what CSA/CSE data has to do with adult men raping and trafficking kids
CSA/CSE reports for 2022/23 state that 17'801 rape offences against children were recorded in that year and 83% of all group based rape gang offences the same year committed by white British men. How do you think it helps you with this...

It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.
No idea why just 11% end up going to court
Yes I do. Almost 80'000 of those offences did not end up in court for varying reasons i.e. 'evidential difficulties' or 'prosecution prevented or not in the public interest' or 'out of court resolution'.
No idea why people get community service, caution or not in the public interest for rapes that are category 2A or worse
The police decide that further investigation resulting from the crime report, which could provide evidence sufficient to support formal action being taken against the suspect, is not in the public interest.
The Crown Prosecution Service, by virtue of its powers under the Criminal Justice Act 2003, decides not to prosecute or authorise any other formal action.
A community resolution is applied in accordance with guidance from the College of Policing (2023b).
I don't see how it helps you with this..
It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of.
No idea how many white British men are jailed for raping and trafficking kids
I think I have asked you your relevance to this a dozen times. Still waiting....
No idea noseall as usual.
Not really true is it...

This however is factual...
A number of high-profile cases - including the offending in Rotherham investigated by Professor Alexis Jay,3 the Rochdale group convicted as a result of Operation Span, and convictions in Telford – have mainly involved men of Pakistani ethnicity. Beyond specific high-profile cases, the academic literature highlights significant limitations to what can be said about links between ethnicity and this form of offending. Research has found that group-based CSE offenders are most commonly White.
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Research on offender ethnicity is limited, and tends to rely on poor quality data. It is therefore difficult to draw conclusions about differences in ethnicity of offenders, but it is likely that no one community or culture is uniquely predisposed to offending. • A number of studies have indicated an over-representation of Asian and Black offenders in group-based CSE. Most of the same studies show that the majority of offenders are White.
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I wonder if biking from the boatyard understands what this says......

Most grooming gang offences carried out by white men, police chiefs say​

or this....

The vast majority of grooming gang offences are carried out by white men, the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) has said.

or this....

New figures from the police database show that, where ethnicity data was available, 85% of “group-based” child abusers were white in the first three quarters of 2024.

Offences where grooming gangs are involved are predominantly white. There is not a significant issue here with any particular ethnicity or setting
Richard Fewkes, NPCC
The same data for the whole of 2023 showed 83% of offenders were white.

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Across various contexts (online, intra-familial, group-based, offences by under-18s) a large majority (between 76% and 91%) of suspects were White

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I'm not going round and round in circles with you, you haven't a clue. Its obvious.
Round in circles? You haven't answered. :confused:

You asked me if I knew how many CSA rape offences resulted in jail sentences
According to you how many adult men are jailed for child rape, each year
482 (England and Wales 2022/23)

Repeatedly saying that the number is incorrect (which it isn't) is deflecting.

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
 
Good grief. You think CPS/Plod have the power to offer caution/community service for a Cat 2A rape, which carries a mandatory 10 year sentence? Why don't you give your head a gentle shake and see if you can work it out?

show me how you got to 482.
 
Good grief. You think CPS/Plod have the power to offer caution/community service for a Cat 2A rape, which carries a mandatory 10 year sentence?
Me? Dunno. Why do you ask? Why is it relevant what I think?


What I do know is that in 2022/23 there were 17'801 child rape offences recorded. There were 1'079 prosecutions (child rape) and 530 convictions. 91% resulted in immediate custodial sentence and 7% were suspended.
show me how you got to 482.
see above.
 
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