Another record milestone for Labour. 50,000…

[motorbiking]

Why call them a "bucket". You just can't help yourself.

Why not. Bucket clearly means category in this context. You’re reading in something that isn’t there.

And you wonder why people call you slippery.

To be fair I think that label was pinned on you.

I don’t wonder why at all, it’s usually an allegation from people who don’t have an argument.

 

[MNW67]

Why not. Bucket clearly means category in this context. You’re reading in something that isn’t there.

The classic defence of the dog whistler

I don’t wonder why at all, it’s usually an allegation from people who don’t have an argument.

It is the way you constantly twist words to try to slither out of situations. Just like above. But you are right, most people just call you a liar.

 

[motorbiking]

Neither is true.

Has it occurred to you that a short message on a forum cannot fully convey the ideas and thoughts of a poster?

Half the arguments (that aren’t hate or vendetta motivated) on this forum are due to the brevity of a post.

 

[Mottie]

Let's take these one at a time. What about those who actually are fleeing persecution. Are they playing the system.

Obviously not but how do you tell them apart from the others?

 

[denso13]

Obviously not but how do you tell them apart from the others?

By processing and investigation. No other way really.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

First Migrant Convicted of Illegal Deliveroo Work Fined Just £26 as Home Office Crackdown Nets 280 Arrests - Britannia Daily

The first migrant to be convicted of illegally working for Deliveroo has been fined just two hours' worth of pay, sparking fierce political debate over Britain'

britanniadaily.co.uk

£26 fine, for working illegally - what sort of deterrent is that?

 

[Mottie]

By processing and investigation. No other way really.

So someone allegedly comes from a war torn country and you just phone up that country’s department of social security, give their name and they corroborate the story you’ve been told?

 

[MNW67]

Neither is true.

Has it occurred to you that a short message on a forum cannot fully convey the ideas and thoughts of a poster?

Half the arguments (that aren’t hate or vendetta motivated) on this forum are due to the brevity of a post.

I know some of it is down to crossed wires.

But if that is the case, you could make an effort to post more clearly. My posts are rarely misunderstood.

I know it is often difficult on a forum. Take my own situation. A few months ago, there were a lot of fights on the board. Things sometimes went too far and got very nasty. For some reason, I took it upon myself to act as peacemaker and would stand up for people on either side who thought they were being bullied. Instead of people thinking that was a nice thing to do, a couple of posters believed I had an ulterior motive. So, I learnt my lesson.

 

[MNW67]

Obviously not but how do you tell them apart from the others?

Exactly. This is what I have been thinking a lot about recently. I keep hoping somebody will come up with a magic solution!

 

[Mottie]

Exactly. This is what I have been thinking a lot about recently. I keep hoping somebody will come up with a magic solution!

Sodium thiopental, scopolamine, lie detector test.

 

[denso13]

So someone allegedly comes from a war torn country and you just phone up that country’s department of social security, give their name and they corroborate the story you’ve been told?

Not really no, how would you do it?

 

[Mottie]

Not really no, how would you do it?

#145

 

[motorbiking]

I know some of it is down to crossed wires.

But if that is the case, you could make an effort to post more clearly. My posts are rarely misunderstood.

I find this place a bit too addictive at times. While I would be the first to admit I don’t work very hard for my money. I do sometimes post while reading something else (that I should be focused on). I am also dyslexic and have to flesh my ideas, correct and correct again.

This is why you will sometimes see an edit. Which I will hold my hand up to.

 

[denso13]

#145

Fine, so by investigation then. I said that and you didn't like it.

 

[motorbiking]

#145

What doesn’t help is a government who sets KPIs and focus on clearing the backlog. It encourages an increase in approvals that should be declined. I’ve shared links to the case files previously. Plenty of appeals are from people playing the system and lawyers making money helping them.