At what point are we 'old'?

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No, no no...

Radio 2 is the new Radio 1.

Just like 50 is the new 30.
R4 has been my station of choice for years, nowadays supplemented/superseded by Absolute Rock (mainly 'cause KKFM isn't easily available in the UK).

But to answer the Thread headline question - I'd say I'm to old when I can't mix a barrow load of concrete by hand!
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I'd say I'm to old when I can't mix a barrow load of concrete by hand!
I'd say I'm old when I can't rip out a rotten floor and replace it faster than a 30 year old... (I still can, just)

As to concrete, I went barrow mix years ago!
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Yes, if old people refused to die young and vacate their big houses

And why are old people with small houses excluded?

My relations 'did the right thing' and down sized in their late 60's, now in their early 80's, they need the support of their offspring who live 2+ hours away on a frequent basis (at least 3 weekends a month and recently whole weeks). For the last 3 years after their family gave up sleeping on the floor in the parents lounge and have been stopping in B&B or a Travellodge and are wondering what to do for the future as the costs are mounting up - Move back to be close to the parents (and give up a job), rent or buy a second home (funded by selling off other assets) or extending the parents house. The parents do not wish to move (positively refuse to move again). The whole family now regret downsizing their property.

It's a difficult position to be in with a difficult decision to make.
why are old people with small houses excluded?

Sadly, life expectancy is not so good.

"The latest data from the Office for National Statistics show that men born in the poorest areas of the country are now expected to live almost 10 years less (73.5 years in the period 2018 to 2020) than those in the richest areas (83.2 years), and women eight years less (78.3 versus 86.3).

There were “statistically significant” decreases in male and female life expectancy in the most deprived areas when compared with the period 2015 to 2017, said the ONS.

The figures also show that in the most deprived areas people are living more of their life in ill health. Girls born in the poorest areas of England live 19 years less in good health than those born in the wealthiest areas.1

In 2018 to 2020 healthy life expectancy at birth for girls and women was 51.9 years in the most deprived areas and 70.7 years in the least deprived areas. The figures for boys and men were 52.3 and 70.5 years, respectively."
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You got something agaimst us coffin dodgers?

Generally speaking I think that improvements in health and quality of life for us older people are to be welcomed.

It is a pity that our children's and grandchildren's generations are not seeing a similar improvement

Rather in the same way that in real terms, their wages have not increased in 12 years

But the cost of housing has rocketed

And job security is not what it used to be.

There must be a reason, I wonder what it is?
Older people need more healthcare, which costs money. I was saddened that for the first time, NHS nurses feel impelled to strike because their pay and conditions have gone downhill so much.

There must be a reason. I wonder what it is?

Why, have we had one that's caused overpopulation, or could it be the increase in population outstripping the increase in housing? What a tw@ish post from you.
It's a hypothetical question. :rolleyes:

If you have a set of rules then you can test if they're sensible by looking at edge cases.
1% is enough and all we can afford
...and that's because we can't possibly reduce the amount of money we are funelling to our mates in the private sector through the NHS, and we can't train more staff because if we did it would mean our friends in the staffing agencies wouldn't be able to make bumper profits from hiring agency nurses to the NHS at extortionate rates. Of course our mates are helping us keep a Tory government in office by making generous contributions to.our funds, so that's all wonderful, isn't it?

The fact that some NHS nurses have to freelance as part time agency nurses to.make up their wages because we don't pay them enough shows the true spirit of entrdepreneurship is post Brexit Britain. And for those unlucky enough not able to find agencybwork, there"s always the local bank. So just why are nurses striking? Seems to me the have a jolly good deal with a bit if moonlighting and free grub!
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