Bill to protect food standards is rejected - You can't trust them - but you still do...

[JohnD]

And i don't subscribe to your view that it will result in automatically lowered standards.

I suppose that depends on the direction the ruling party travels.

Who's your MP?



Check how your MP voted
In total, 332 MPs – consisting of 329 Tory MPs, 2 DUP MPs, and 1 Independent MP – voted against protecting the UK’s current animal welfare protections and food standards last night:


Whilst a total of 279 MPs – consisting of 192 Labour MPs, 14 Conservatives, 11 Liberal Democrats, 5 DUP MPs, 3 Plaid Cymru, 47 SNP, 1 Green, 3 Independents, 2 SDP, and 1 Alliance MP – voted in favour of protecting the UK’s current animal welfare protections and food standards.

 

[SirGalahad]

Yeah def need EU standards on the caper

Horse meat dressed up as beef

exporting live animals to such places like dire ear a stan for ritual slaughter

the disgusting fur trade that prevails in the EU

Veal

that goose pate and how its done


standards huh what do u know

Are you seriously the dumbest poster on here.

Why don't you learn something. Or was it an excel error?

What a dumbo.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/15/horsemeat-scandal-the-essential-guide

8. How is the meat industry regulated?
Licensed slaughterhouses across Europe are required to have an official vet in attendance when slaughtering takes place – in the UK most used to be directly employed by the government but many are now supplied under contract to the Food Standards Agency by the private company Eville & Jones. Plants over a certain size are also required to have a meat hygiene inspector. A trend to deregulate and leave industry to police itself, begun under the last government, has seen numbers of inspectors fall from 1,700 at the height of the BSE crisis to around 800 now. Smaller cutting plants are no longer subject to daily inspection. The Food Standards Agency has limited powers – it has depended on industry alerting it to the results of tests voluntarily. Enforcement largely falls to individual local authorities and their trading standards officers, and their budgets have been slashed.

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9. What about industry claims that it has full traceability?
The industry has previously boasted that it has full traceability of its supply chain which it audits frequently. The current scandal shows that that traceability is not worth the paper it is generally written on. Most of the factories caught up in the scandal have accreditation with mainstream auditing schemes such as that run by the British Retail Consortium but it failed to spot the problem.

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10. What happened to government control of food safety and standards?
The Food Standards Agency was set up in the wake of the BSE crisis when it became clear that one agency that co-ordinated all regulation on food safety and quality was needed. Political memories have been short, however. The coalition government broke up much of the FSA in its bonfire of the quangos, so that responsibility in the current scandal is split. The FSA is still in charge of food safety; the Department of Health is responsible for nutritional standards, and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs covers labelling and veterinary medicines.

 

[fillyboy]

The Irish survey identified three factories as the source of beef products that had been contaminated or adulterated: Silvercrest Foods in Ireland, Dalepak in Yorkshire and Liffey Meats in Ireland. Silvercrest and Dalepak are both subsidiaries of ABP Food Group, one of the largest beef processors in Europe.

ABP pointed the finger of blame at its continental suppliers, with the FSAI saying these were in the Netherlands and Spain. It later said the horsemeat had entered its chain through suppliers in Poland. The Polish government checked its horse slaughterhouses and found no irregularities in labelling. Five weeks into the scandal and the links in the Irish chain have still not been fully established.

Huge blocks of frozen meat at a cold store in Northern Ireland, Freeza Foods, which had been quarantined by officials suspicious of its labelling and state of packaging, were found to contain 80% horse. Freeza Foods said the meat blocks had been delivered to its store by meat broker McAdam Foods but that it had rejected them and only continued storing them as a "goodwill" measure for McAdam. McAdam said it in turn had been sold them by a meat trader in Hull, Flexi Foods, which imports from Poland and elsewhere. ABP confirmed it had been supplied materials by McAdam but the two companies have given conflicting accounts of what the deliveries have been.

ABP has also confirmed that it has been supplied with beef by Norwest Foods, based in Cheshire, with operations in Poland and Spain, which is now also part of FSA inquiries.

The first case of horsemeat being found in fresh beef surfaced this week, when Asda withdrew its fresh beef bolognese. Its supplier was the Irish company Greencore, which said it had in turn been supplied the meat by ABP.

Where horse has been found above trace levels, however, experts believe they are looking at fraudulent substitution of horse for beef. Where horse has been found in high concentrations, they say it suggests industrial scale adulteration.

Once the Irish authorities had reported their findings, the UK FSA asked industry to test all its beef products for horse. The next round of tests revealed that the "beef" in frozen lasagne and spaghetti bolognese made for Tesco, Aldi and Findus by a French manufacturer, Comigel, was up to 100% horse.


Comigel was making cheap beef meals for supermarkets and branded companies in 16 different countries so the scandal spread rapidly, with horsemeat meals being withdrawn in Germany, Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, as well as Ireland and the UK.

Good article Galahad, hardly mentions USA at all, in fact, it doesn't mention the USA at all.

 

[Notch7]

Good article Galahad, hardly mentions USA at all, in fact, it doesn't mention the USA at all

Why would it?

Thank you for sharing an interesting article explaining how the Food Safety Authority of Ireland which represents Ireland on food safety issues in Europe, managed to find something that breached regulations.

So you've rather proved that food safety standards are maintained in Europe.


Finding something that breaches regulations is different from simply having low standards.

You Brexiteers do love your old tropes......every brexer repeats the same old stuff, did they give you a manual?

 

[noseall]

Good article Galahad, hardly mentions USA at all, in fact, it doesn't mention the USA at all.

Or Romania. transam will be gutted.

 

[transam]

Or Romania. transam will be gutted.

Dare say a brown envelope was discreetly handed over

 

[transam]

Food standards

Animal welfare

The horrendous cruelty to cats and dogs in chinese markets is a disgrace to any right minder person or any civilisded country

Hundreds of thousands of dogs and 2 million cats are killed and skinned per year

They writhe in agony as they are bludgeoned
Hung by there tails and many are skinned alive

But hey ho the likes of Gallahad choose to Sweep it under the carpet

 

[JohnD]

cruelty

Britain has a large dairy industry.

It is intrinsically cruel.

Luckily, we're used to it, so we don't care.

 

[Vinty]

Mink farms in Holland, Bullfighting still allowed to happen Spain.
So much for the EUs animal welfare laws.

 

[fillyboy]

Bullfighting still allowed to happen Spain.

Yes but surely bullfighting isn't as bad as those horrible Americans putting more chickens in a cage than the nice Europeans, which is why chlorinated chicken is banned, nowt to do with chlorine.

 

[Notch7]

Yes but surely bullfighting isn't as bad as those horrible Americans putting more chickens in a cage than the nice Europeans, which is why chlorinated chicken is banned, nowt to do with chlorine.

Interesting how brexers are so keen to endorse UK being forced to accept lower standards by America.

" it's terrible the way we gave to follow EU rules"
"We are fine with America forcing lower standards on us"

 

[Notch7]

Mink farms in Holland, Bullfighting still allowed to happen Spain.
So much for the EUs animal welfare laws.

A law banning mink farming in the Netherlands was passed in 2013

 

[Notch7]

Yes but surely bullfighting isn't as bad as those horrible Americans putting more chickens in a cage than the nice Europeans, which is why chlorinated chicken is banned, nowt to do with chlorine.

Bullfighting is legal in Spain!

How can that be, nations in the EU don't have any sovereignty.

Oh.....turns out they do.
Another Brexit myth busted

 

[Notch7]

bullfighting isn't as bad as those horrible Americans

Bullfighting also legal in America.

 

[noseall]

The EU are not responsible for individual acts of cruelty to animals. Even in our own abattoirs and farms, what is and isn't seen by inspectors is like night and day. It's hilarious how pious Brits on here deride other countries whilst championing the great British sympathy toward animals.