Boundary line

[darkart]

I purchased some land with a drive leading up to my purchased plot.

Leading up the drive on each side is a couple of houses that use a communal drive.

The problem I now have is that I want to build a wall in front of my house but the neighbour says I can't because the area in front of mine and his house is communal to allow cars to turn round.

On the plans, it does show a boundary line of the land I purchased in front of my house.

Problem is, there are no boundary measurements on my drawings to show how far my boundary line runs in front of my house.

How can I find out and clarify how much land in front of my house is mine to enable me to build a boundary wall?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Diver Fred]

Who owns the drive and who has right of way? Is it 'adopted'? That knowledge should be on the deeds, if it isn't then you will always have problems.

The original deeds, not recent Land registry electronic deeds is the most useful.

 

[^woody^]

If nothing is detailed in the deeds, then you will need to employ a specialist surveyor to assess the likely boundary line, and then a solicitor advise you on what you can and can't do with the land and access drive, and to formalise the boundary into the land deeds.

You should have been advised of all this as part of the conveyance.

 

[darkart]

The neighbour who sold me the land owns the drive but it's been agreed as communal and used by all who live on it for many years before I purchased the land.

I have plans of the land I bought but as said, no measurements are shown to the front of the house, just a boundary line showing a wall.

What is the conveyance?

And where can I get a copy of the deeds as I have changed solicitors since?

 

[JohnD]

Land registry Gov.uk


(Not org.UK or co.UK or .com or any of the other scammers)

 

[darkart]

Many thanks to all/JohnD, can't thank you enough.

Forget to mention, it was the seller who sold the land with planning and nothing is on the plans with concerns to the measurements in front of the house to the boundary wall.

 

[Diver Fred]

If the property is mortgaged then ask your mortgage company as they will (well, should) hold the deeds. Hopefully they will let you have a copy or help you with your problem.
The Land Registery deeds are unlikely to have much useful info in the deeds they have - I've been in dispute with them for 12 years trying sort out a boundary issue with a neighbouring farmer.

But on another point are you the last property in the road? If you are you really ought to be the drive owner. I see you say the neighbour is the drive owner; really don't think you will ever solve the issue and quite honestly now is the time to sell up if you can and go 'cause it will never get better.

 

[JohnD]

If the property is mortgaged then ask your mortgage company as they will (well, should) hold the deeds.

Not any more.

What do you think is the purpose of the Land Registry?

 

[Diver Fred]

What do you think is the purpose of the Land Registry?

The theory is they hold the deeds. In practice they know who owns the property and have a VERY rough idea of what the property is. From my dealings with them all they interested in is who owns the property, what it is and the site plan they create is so very loose that it gives away lots of land. I'd not trust the LR to supply accurate boundaries.

 

[bernardgreen]

The Land Registry hold digital copies of deeds. These copies contain the essential information relevant to the property but may not have all the information from the original deeds which may be held by a bank or mortgage company as a security

 

[mrrusty]

Post your question in the rights of way forum at gardenlaw. There are some experts in this area there. This sounds like a ROW issue rather than a boundary issue - you can have a boundary but within that boundary others may still have rights of access.

 

[JohnD]

The Land Registry hold digital copies of deeds. These copies contain the essential information relevant to the property but may not have all the information from the original deeds which may be held by a bank or mortgage company as a security...

...or may be lost or destroyed.


The Land Registry holds the definitive record. Nobody is obliged to keep the old paper copies. Once the property is registered, the old paper copies are obsolete, and do not prove ownership, so are not required by lenders, and give no security.

https://hmlandregistry.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/19/title-deeds/

 

[^woody^]

Did you buy this land off Facebook?

It seems like you've bought land but don't know what you've bought.

 

[bernardgreen]

Once the property is registered, the old paper copies are obsolete, and do not prove ownership, so are not required by lenders, and give no security.

Do I need my title deeds?
Our Land Register is the definitive record of land and property ownership in England and Wales. So, if your property is registered with us, you don’t need the deeds to confirm your ownership. It’s a good idea to keep the original deeds though, as they can hold extra information, about legal boundaries or who the previous owner was, for example.

NOTE about legal boundaries

 

[JohnD]

NOTE about legal boundaries

since nobody is required to keep the old papers, and they are not the definitive title, you cannot depend on them, or being able to find them, or them existing.