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[Jurassicspark]

Indeed it might, to people who will not accept what dictionaries say, either because they cannot bring themselves to admit they've been wrong, or refuse to face the fact that somebody else who was wrong gave them a false definition.

Are you implying that questioning official definitions is always a bad thing even when those definitions might be outdated or incomplete?

Or could it be that people challenge definitions because language evolves and dictionaries cant keep up?

Lets say you only rely on one dictionary, the one laying on the table, who decides which definition is the "correct" one your dictionary or common sense?

Considering when computers were not so common in domestic households and you are saying that if someone refuses to accept what dictionaries say either because they can’t admit they were wrong or because someone else who was wrong gave them a false definition then what exactly do you expect them to do keep holding onto the wrong definition that was given to them wrongly or somehow suddenly admit they are wrong despite being told wrong in the first place? And if they do admit it is that admission really theirs or just because they were told so by another, who might also be wrong, and if so how do we ever know which wrong to trust or if there’s any right at all?

 

[ebee]

I still use dial up as i love the sound of the router!

I remember dial up, wow going back a bit, I used a firm called "Red Hot Ant" back then, of course it hooked my phone up and blocked incoming calls so I bought a gadget that used my caller display to inform me of an incoming phone call so I lifted the phone to break the interweb connection and answer the caller, worked quite well and was cheaper than paying for broadband back then.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

worked quite well and was cheaper than paying for broadband back then.

In the early days, there was no broadband, it was all dial-up access to the internet. My first access, was a free service, desperately slow, via an 0800 number, the number was often busy, but I cannot remember how they made money from it.

Before the dial-up internet access, there was dial-up BBS's.

 

[ebee]

Broadband seemed quite expensive initially so dial up could be a better but slower option.

Blooming heck we will be reliving CB Radio next Harry

 

[morqthana]

Blooming heck we will be reliving CB Radio next Harry

Or noting that (in London, at least), by the end of the 19th century mail was delivered to houses as often as 12 times a day. The first delivery typically began at about 7:30 a.m. and the last one at about 7:30 p.m. “In London, people complained if a letter didn’t arrive in a couple of hours,” said Catherine J. Golden, the author of Posting It: The Victorian Revolution in Letter Writing.

 

[ericmark]

Before the dial-up internet access, there was dial-up BBS's.

I do not remember dial-up BBS's, but used packet radio a lot.

Blooming heck we will be reliving CB Radio next Harry

Did not realise it had gone, I see loads of aerials on the local tractors, but not tried to listen in, did try 2 meter band, but seems only one guy within range. Maybe not CB but some other HF band?

I have used PMR466, but only down on the heritage railway. We got them for bike rides, so we could hear the problem without having to stop to use the phone. But getting my wife on her bike is rare today.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I do not remember dial-up BBS's, but used packet radio a lot.

It was the packet, which drew me into taking the RAE.

Did not realise it had gone, I see loads of aerials on the local tractors, but not tried to listen in, did try 2 meter band, but seems only one guy within range. Maybe not CB but some other HF band?

I'm told it's still popular around here, I still see lots of antennas.

 

[ericmark]

Up north (Talacre to Amlwch) I have not seen many aerials, maybe more around Anglesey, but here in the centre of the country, I have seen loads. I have some old CB sets, maybe I should find out some batteries?

Would I need a licence other than my ham one? I seem to remember hearing the ham licence covers, would that mean I need to use ham call sign?

 

[ebee]

Or noting that (in London, at least), by the end of the 19th century mail was delivered to houses as often as 12 times a day. The first delivery typically began at about 7:30 a.m. and the last one at about 7:30 p.m. “In London, people complained if a letter didn’t arrive in a couple of hours,” said Catherine J. Golden, the author of Posting It: The Victorian Revolution in Letter Writing.

Interesting indeed - I remember not long ago we had two deliveries each day (often rotated a bit, so sometimes the first post came and after an hour or so the second post came and we would think "Has the postman simply kept a few letters in his bag to create this second post?" LOL. Yes it did seem silly rather than one post per day for everyone and as early as practical please)

 

[SUNRAY]

CB is still going strong, obviously not the manic crap of 80s but now includes FM, AM, SSB & digital. Occasionally I'll have a listen and often find some half decent users.

 

[ebee]

Did not realise it had gone, I see loads of aerials on the local tractors, but not tried to listen in, did try 2 meter band, but seems only one guy within range. Maybe not CB but some other HF band?

It has not gone apparently Eric but certainly not used as much now that mobile phones and tinternet are common.
First it was illegal in the UK then legal if you had the 27/81 stuff and you had a licence then later on you did not need a licence. We made good use of it especially at times of a "convoy of 2 or 3 vehicles going an a week or two holiday a hundred or three miles from home. Happy memories, plus you got a chance of making that emergency call miles away from civilisation if required, no doubt saved some grief on a few occasions and you might have a good chance of some local good buddies helping you with best travelling directions too.

One time travelling the A64 towards Scarborough got a "Are you in a Brown Cortina Estate", "Yes we are", "Hi Buddie I`m a a Blue Astra 5 vehicles behind you!" etc etc etc.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Would I need a licence other than my ham one? I seem to remember hearing the ham licence covers, would that mean I need to use ham call sign?

From memory, there never was a CB licence, it was described as 'licence free' if the equipment met the spec..

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Interesting indeed - I remember not long ago we had two deliveries each day (often rotated a bit, so sometimes the first post came and after an hour or so the second post came and we would think "Has the postman simply kept a few letters in his bag to create this second post?" LOL. Yes it did seem silly rather than one post per day for everyone and as early as practical please)

We used to get a delivery at around 7am, then a second at around lunchtime. The lunchtime delivery included the 2nd class items.

 

[SUNRAY]

Up north (Talacre to Amlwch) I have not seen many aerials, maybe more around Anglesey, but here in the centre of the country, I have seen loads. I have some old CB sets, maybe I should find out some batteries?

Would I need a licence other than my ham one? I seem to remember hearing the ham licence covers, would that mean I need to use ham call sign?

From memory, there never was a CB licence, it was described as 'licence free' if the equipment met the spec..

No license required now, when it was legalised there was a 10 year license, I think I want to say £10 but that feels like a lot back then. I did a fair amount of travel 85-95 ish and much in groups of 2-4 vehicles so very useful to keep in touch and made some good use of it for road directions too. I renewed mine around 91 or 92 . I think it may have been gone 10 years after that but by then I didn't have any rigs set up anywhere, I assume I still have some but unseen for many years, probably since moving to current home in 94, hard to sort the dates after 30 years.

Edit: Wkiipedia says initially £10 and increased to £15 then became license exempt 2006

 

[ericmark]

Oh, I remember the emergency use of radio, I was coming back to Mount Pleasant on the Falklands from Goose Green when I met some squadies, travailing 90º to me, who said they were also heading for Mount Pleasant, my comments were, one of us is heading in the wrong direction.

Seems they had been out some days, and they could not get their huge HF set to work, so on 2 meter I talked to Walker Creak, who in turn talked to Mount Pleasant who sent out a helicopter to pick them up, and after all that did not give me a lift.

It is not having a radio, it is knowing how to use it that matters. They, it seems, went out on a 24-hour exercise, I found them on day 5.