can i get away with this.

[panny300]

a new cooker on the opposite side of the kitchen to the original.it's a double oven,it's rated at 3.4kw,can i get away with plugging it into a socket,i know it should be up to 3kw to plug in.

 

[Taylortwocities]

What do the manufacturer's instructions say?
Do they say you are to connect it via a 13A plug?

Are you doing this for your own use, or are you doing it as paid work for somebody else?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

i know it should be up to 3kw to plug in.

If you know that why do you think that a 3.4kW load is OK to be plugged in?

 

[crissUK]

You could add a 20A Control Switch as spur from the socket you wanted to use (providing the socket is part of a ring circuit) and wire directly the cooker to the switch.

 

[dannyboi2003]

You could add a 20A Control Switch as spur from the socket you wanted to use (providing the socket is part of a ring circuit) and wire directly the cooker to the switch.

NO YOU CANT!!

Please don't post advice unless you know what you are doing, what you just proposed is dangerous and likely to cause a fire!

 

[plugwash]

likely to cause a fire is a gross exaggeration though I agree it is a violation of the regs and shouldn't be done.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

It is also illegal.

 

[crissUK]

You could add a 20A Control Switch as spur from the socket you wanted to use (providing the socket is part of a ring circuit) and wire directly the cooker to the switch.

NO YOU CANT!!

Please don't post advice unless you know what you are doing, what you just proposed is dangerous and likely to cause a fire!

Sorry, but this is what my electrician has proposed to do for my cooker position.

Can you explain why it's dangerous?

 

[dannyboi2003]

Sorry, but this is what my electrician has proposed to do for my cooker position.

Can you explain why it's dangerous?

OK i'll agree that it causing a fire is a little over exagerated but its still not safe!

Its dangerous because the cooker at full load will draw 14.7amps, you are only permitted to draw up to 13amps from any point on a ring final. Placing a higher load on that particular point of the ring final could lead to possible heat damage of switch accessories over a prolonged period. Also the ring final is protected by a 32amp mcb/fuse and the cooker should be protected by a 16amp mcb/fuse.

The cooker should have its own dedicated radial circuit from the CU protected by a 16amp mcb/fuse.

Please for safetys sake do the job properly.

 

[mattylad]

And can BAS please explain why it is illegal?

which law were you referring to?

 

[Jaymack]

can i get away with plugging it into a socket,i know it should be up to 3kw to plug in.

That would be 2kW to the 17th edition!

Regards

 

[Taylortwocities]

Sorry, but this is what my electrician has proposed to do for my cooker position.

Then he is very wrong. Is he a qualified, registered electrician???

 

[RF Lighting]

And can BAS please explain why it is illegal?

which law were you referring to?

Part P of the buildings regulations......

 

[rssteve]

You could add a 20A Control Switch as spur from the socket you wanted to use (providing the socket is part of a ring circuit) and wire directly the cooker to the switch.

you started the other thread about using blue pipe as conduit, please leave alone and call a different electrician in.

 

[panny300]

thanks everybody,just thought might get away with it.
jaymack,are you saying that no device over 2kw can be plugged in,or just cookers,and why?