Can I still use amendment 1: 2011 forms until I have used them all. Or should I dispose of them and use only amendment 3 now? Thanks
Can I still use amendment 1 forms ?
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Does the wording differ from the AMD 3 ones, apart from mentioning Amd 1:2011?
If not then you could use Tippex (other correction fluids are available) and overwrite that part, if you think that promotes the right professional image.
If not then you could use Tippex (other correction fluids are available) and overwrite that part, if you think that promotes the right professional image.
I haven't undertaken a comparison, but the Introduction of Amd 3 says:
Introduction of Amendment 3 to BS7671:2008 said:
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The forms are down loadable free of charge on the IET website. (I think as being a member maybe I have extra access) So if free and only cost is printer ink why bother using old forms?
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Maybe the OP has taken the trouble to have forms printed with his company logo etc on them.
Personally I would carry on using the forms you have. Mine have spaces to insert the amendment year. If the information on there contains all of the detail as required by BS7671 then what is the problem? If there is material information that is missing, then a new document must be used. If the new document has only cosmetic changes then carry on.
I'm going to stick my head above the parapet here. The document that you give to the householder will probably never be read or understood, in any case. This is true of much of what we receive. When I take my truck for its MoT test I get an exhaust emissions report. I have no idea if the document is the same this year as the one from last year. I have no idea what an Asorbtion Coefficient of 5.40 l/m is.
All I care about is that the vehicle pased and is signed by somebody who (I assume) is competent to test and analyze the results.
I may need the document if something goes wrong and I get hauled up by City of London police for an exhaust emmissions felony but otherwise it is kept in a very dark corner of the filing cabinet.
You can make up your own forms if you want.
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I have worked when the forms were in a book form and had serial numbers and I can see why one would want to keep the serial numbers in order to ensure you can find them when required.
But we stored the info on computer in most places and the printed form when into a year box with the date it could be disposed of written on the box. Each year as we put the forms into the loft we removed and disposed of a expired set covered in dust and never accessed from the day they were put there. So yes in most cases we never look at the written form.
The reason the Emma Shaw case is talked about so much is it's rare for anyone to have to dig out the forms. My PC may auto compare results and flag up any changes with last test results but wadding through the paperwork is rare. So in real terms the only reason for the paper is to attach your signature to the work and so using old forms do that just as well as the new forms.
Working non domestic I would not change forms, but with domestic we have I am told some policing by the scheme providers? So the real question is if the scheme provider visits the job will they accept the old forms? If so then not problem and if not you need to upgrade. So I would say if worried it's a simple phone call.
But we stored the info on computer in most places and the printed form when into a year box with the date it could be disposed of written on the box. Each year as we put the forms into the loft we removed and disposed of a expired set covered in dust and never accessed from the day they were put there. So yes in most cases we never look at the written form.
The reason the Emma Shaw case is talked about so much is it's rare for anyone to have to dig out the forms. My PC may auto compare results and flag up any changes with last test results but wadding through the paperwork is rare. So in real terms the only reason for the paper is to attach your signature to the work and so using old forms do that just as well as the new forms.
Working non domestic I would not change forms, but with domestic we have I am told some policing by the scheme providers? So the real question is if the scheme provider visits the job will they accept the old forms? If so then not problem and if not you need to upgrade. So I would say if worried it's a simple phone call.
Thank you all, very helpful.
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You beat me to it!
Indeed, and he probably talks about it so much because it is (I suspect) the only such case that has ever come before a UK court (and maybe the only one which ever will!)!You beat me to it!
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