celing rose help

[andy1494]

hi there just tried to take an ceiling fan /light off and replace with a normal ceiling rose, but I am confused with the wires the main wire with the N L E are wired correct but there is and other one with L N but not sure where they go power in the first L but that it picture of the ceiling rose and the back of it enclosed
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[EFLImpudence]

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the main wire with the N L E are wired correct

No, it isn't.

but there is and other one with L N but not sure where they go

Fair enough. Have a look at the link.

power in the first L but that it picture of the ceiling rose and the back of it enclosed

What on earth does that mean?

 

[securespark]

Sorry!!!!

Too small........

 

[rjm2k]

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• andy1494
• 18 Jul 2013
• 1

Is that how you wired it?

Where does that black wire that dissapears off the top goto? nothing?

 

[Iggifer]

is that picture how it was wired when you took down the old one? Or how you have wired it up?

because that wont work, you need to follow the diagram

 

[andy1494]

I have the wired the live, neutral and earth as far I no is correct to the right connection but I have and wire with live and neutral not sure what to with them

 

[b21playa]

Does it stay on all the time

 

[andy1494]

This is the new one , the old one had the three normal wire going into the fan with the red one of the other wire connection to the fan saying for light connection the black one was not connected before

 

[andy1494]

Does it stay on all the time

No

 

[Iggifer]

you have a switch wire and a permenant live & neutral.

You do not have two neutrals.

If you have a multimeter you can identify which is the switch wire by continuity testing both cores with the power off and opening and closing the switch.

 

[andy1494]

you have a switch wire and a permenant live & neutral.

You do not have two neutrals.

If you have a multimeter you can identify which is the switch wire by continuity testing both cores with the power off and opening and closing the switch.

I don't have a multimeter , as far as new from when I put the fan on that the red, blue earth went into the correct pins but not sure about the others when I put the black of the other cable with the other neutral I got the light to stay on but would not switch off

 

[Iggifer]

if this is the only light controlled by the switch then you need to do as I said, turn the power off, put the meter on continuity and see which cable completes the circuit when you turn the switch to the 'On' position.

From there you can follow the diagram on the back of the rose

 

[andy1494]

if this is the only light controlled by the switch then you need to do as I said, turn the power off, put the meter on continuity and see which cable completes the circuit when you turn the switch to the 'On' position.

From there you can follow the diagram on the back of the rose

I don't have a Metre but the diagram I cannot see clearly and yes it the only light on the switch in the bedroom

 

[riveralt]

I don't have a Metre but the diagram I cannot see clearly and yes it the only light on the switch in the bedroom

If you don't have a meter then either call an electrician who has one or..

Turn the power off first - and make sure the circuit is dead.
Two reds to the centre terminals.
One of the black cables to the neutral (blue light cable terminal)
The other black cables to the switch live (brown light cable terminal).

If that does not work then you will have to swop the black cables around.

 

[Iggifer]

if this is the only light controlled by the switch then you need to do as I said, turn the power off, put the meter on continuity and see which cable completes the circuit when you turn the switch to the 'On' position.

From there you can follow the diagram on the back of the rose

I don't have a Metre but the diagram I cannot see clearly and yes it the only light on the switch in the bedroom

apolgies I misread your post. But as riveralt says.