Christianity isn't a religion of Peace - Home Office

[ban-all-sheds]

You are taking the examples from the extreme end of the religious spectrum and presenting them as mainstream religious beliefs.

So where on the spectrum would you position someone like this:

it is what has helped make this country great, and one of the most civilised or once one of the most civilised countries in the world.
christianity works, britain has proved it, take it away,and get lawlessness. see how that is working at the moment.

yes, because that's the choice your going to get, reject Christianity, something else will replace it, islam is coming to town.

 

[breadnbutter]

No.its shhyte

ok
so how do you know and learn right from wrong.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

do you think knowing right from wrong is being religious.

Show me where the secular, atheist, opponents to abortion are campaigning to make it illegal because of their secular or atheist beliefs.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

so how do you know , learn right from wrong.

Define right and wrong without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.

 

[Vinty]

No I am not and as usual you make another straw man argument. I specifically said RW nutters use this concept of Jesus and on top the mad Prosperity Gospel that tele evangelists push.



That's what I wrote.

I thought the discussion was about Christianity you are citing religious extremists to make a political point.

 

[Vinty]

Define right and wrong without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.

Most normal people would agree that the killing of innocent human beings is wrong.
You support abortion which is the taking of life which any normal human being would regard as wrong.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Let us say "knowing right from wrong" is just obvious and common sense .

Could that mean that religious people, who maintain they need telling, don't have any?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Most normal people would agree that the killing of innocent human beings is wrong.

Define "human being" without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.

You support abortion which is the taking of life which any normal human being would regard as wrong.

Assuming you mean human life, define that without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.

 

[Vinty]

Show me where the secular, atheist, opponents to abortion are campaigning to make it illegal because of their secular or atheist beliefs.

Lots of people oppose abortion on the grounds that everyone has the right to life.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Lots of people oppose abortion on the grounds that everyone has the right to life.

Show me where the secular, atheist, opponents to abortion are campaigning to make it illegal because of their secular or atheist beliefs.

 

[breadnbutter]

When can you give me a period of time that we were more civilised. So rejecting God increases in lawlessness?

in the past 20 years we are starting to see more and more a callapse in society, community, and rise in crime. immorality, ( pedophilia, child abuse, divorce, abuse of women, gender confusion,drug taking, hatred, road rage, knife crime, fraud,muggings,street fights,attacks,break ins, murders,chaotic confused out of touch parliament. corruption, just to name a few.

 

[Vinty]

Define "human being" without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.



Assuming you mean human life, define that without reference to any religious beliefs whatsoever.

Shouldn't you aquaint yourself with the basic biology before you make stupid statements.
Pregnancy is not a disease requiring surgery.

Show me where the secular, atheist, opponents to abortion are campaigning to make it illegal because of their secular or atheist beliefs.

I oppose abortion on grounds that every human born or unborn has the right to life.
Nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

 

[EFLImpudence]

in the past 20 years we are starting to see more and more a callapse in society, community, and rise in crime. immorality, ( pedophilia, child abuse, divorce, abuse of women, gender confusion,drug taking, hatred, road rage, knife crime, fraud,muggings,street fights,attacks,break ins, murders,chaotic confused out of touch parliament. corruption, just to name a few.

It could be that you just didn't know about these things before the internet.

Do you really think all these things started in 1999?

 

[breadnbutter]

It could be that you just didn't know about these things before the internet.

regardless of the internet. tho the internet has fuelled crime,

Do you really think all these things started in 1999?

just a rough estimate
why are you defending against the obvous fact that this country has gone down hill.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

abuse of women

A practice enshrined in The Bible.