Climate change questions

[transam]

Cutting down forests is going to stop ( so they say) in the next decade

hmmm 10 years

that should give that fruit cake bolsanaro in Brazil enough time
To level the Amazon rain forest

if he pulls his finger out

 

[fillyboy]

Bidens not doing much to reduce methane emissions.

Camilla 'hasn't stopped talking about Joe Biden breaking wind' | Royal | News | Express.co.uk

 

[AngleEyes]

Cutting down forests is going to stop ( so they say) in the next decade

hmmm 10 years

that should give that fruit cake bolsanaro in Brazil enough time
To level the Amazon rain forest

if he pulls his finger out

When you have something like 40% of the labour involved in that industry segment, it needs more than a one-country approach to migrate the labour and that industry segment into a different role.
Any ideas on how that migration of labour and market economy might be achieved?
Just imagine for a minute that you're a pencil pusher, and come up with a suggestion for Bolsonaro.

 

[transam]

When you have something like 40% of the labour involved in that industry segment, it needs more than a one-country approach to migrate the labour and that industry segment into a different role.
Any ideas on how that migration of labour and market economy might be achieved?
Just imagine for a minute that you're a pencil pusher, and come up with a suggestion for Bolsonaro.

bolsanaro is a total fruit cake he should be banged up IMO

as for your other comments I have mentioned this on several occasions

entire economies will collapse and there will be serious consequences

1.5 degrees load of baloney and it’s not going to happen

 

[AngleEyes]

bolsanaro is a total fruit cake he should be banged up IMO
as for your other comments I have mentioned this on several occasions
entire economies will collapse and there will be serious consequences
1.5 degrees load of baloney and it’s not going to happen

You are going to need some massive prisons to hold all those you perceive as fruitcakes. The prison population in your world will massively outweigh the free population.
How will that work?
Yes we know economies (mainly in developing countries) will be massively affected. The problem is how to mitigate the effects on the populations, not whether it will happen or not.

Denying whether the world will warm up by 1.5 °, will not stop it happening. Transam fiddles while the world burns.

 

[Vinty]

Denying whether the world will warm up by 1.5 °, will not stop it happening.

Returning the world to a stone age lifestyle won't stop it either.

 

[AngleEyes]

Returning the world to a stone age lifestyle won't stop it either.

The honouring of the pledges of finance from the rich countries to help the developing countries to migrate their economies would help.
There are more loans offered than finance donated. Loans that must be repaid, along with the interest payments.

 

[ajohn]

They are beginning to make more sensible noises about the problems that have to be faced. Much to my amazement.

Mrs The Greens - much of the UK's carbon footprint has been exported. No suggestions about what to do about the imports. Only well we can all have green jobs. Planting trees and insulating houses maybe. Grow your own veg in the garden........ I have no idea. Many jobs don't have much of a carbon footprint. What they handle is some cased does.

More noise about cutting down rain forests. Known to be bad for keeping the climate stable since the 70's. It changes weather patterns. Nothing to do with carbon dioxide or global warming. The carbon factors are another aspect. Sort of double whammy.

China bashing as the president didn't turn up. A rather senior USA politician, Gore, mentioned that in terms off adding wind and solar power they have done more than the rest of the world all put together. They do have a bigger problem than others as a lot of every bodies footprint is there. Our largest impact a couple of years ago was led light bulbs - much more impact than anything else done here at the time. What is being done here now in a hurry?

Can people live in the UK with no heating all year round? Same applies to many countries also no cooling in some. Rising sea levels are just one aspect of that problem.

Then people who say changes need to be made now instantly - how? There is even thoughts that the Gulf Stream can turn off.

 

[IT Minion]

Can people live in the UK with no heating all year round?

In really well designed and built buildings, just about. In the existing housing stock, not so much.

 

[IT Minion]

bolsanaro is a total fruit cake he should be banged up IMO

as for your other comments I have mentioned this on several occasions

entire economies will collapse and there will be serious consequences

1.5 degrees load of baloney and it’s not going to happen

But 1.6 might, which is better than 1.7, or 1.8 or 1.9 etc.

The 'just give up' brigade do like to ignore that it is a continuous scale and the closer we can get to 1.6 the better and cheaper it will all be.

 

[transam]

In any event one needs to look at the bigger picture some of this global warming could be of benefit

 

[IT Minion]

In any event one needs to look at the bigger picture some of this global warming could be of benefit

Not really. Even if the world magically became more pleasant for human life you'd have to move a huge number of humans around to take advantage of it.

Do you fancy relocating to Siberia? Because you'd be fighting for it with everyone else who's driven out of their previous areas.

 

[Munroast]

Not really. Even if the world magically became more pleasant for human life you'd have to move a huge number of humans around to take advantage of it.

Do you fancy relocating to Siberia? Because you'd be fighting for it with everyone else who's driven out of their previous areas.

There is no reason why we could not exist and live well in a world that was 5 degrees warmer, but as you point out it is the difficulty in getting there that will cause major problems, vast amounts of the worlds populations will need to relocate, and that will cause wars and conflict on a scale never seen before, nobody anywhere wants migrants (apart from a few trolls in here) and we could have a couple of billion migrants.

It isn't the warmer climate that will kill us, it will be the wars as we all fight to own the new fertile farmland where ever that may be.

Even the simpler more straight forward problems just beggar belief - at some point we will need to relocate cities like London to higher ground - move the entire city!

 

[noseall]

Returning the world to a stone age lifestyle

Not a bad idea. This planet would fare much better without human intervention.

The meek will inherit the earth.

 

[Brigade77]

One or two of the alternative scientists I pay any attention to are saying that the only survivors of an apocalyptic earth event will be the African plains & Amazonian jungle tribes . . . . !