Connecting galvanised pipe without threading

[Scoby_Beasley]

How many pieces of conduit do you require, and what sort of lengths?

If you're not desperate, I could thread a couple of pieces and put them in the post to you for a few quid.

Now. In my humble opinion, that is what its all about!

If flipjango had lived in Co. Durham I'd have got a few bits threaded for him, as the lengths he's talking about are most likely in my "NO! DON'T THROW IT AWAY, IT MAY BE USEFUL ONE DAY" box .

Drop me an email. My address is in my profile.

I can't see it - does one perhaps have to be your 'friend' for it to be visible?

Ditto. But been a few years since I've been here and I've forgot all the protocols!!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

As far as I'm aware you are not under any obligation to apply for building regs to install light fittings,

You are adding lights in a kitchen.

That is notifiable - you are obliged to submit an application for Building Regulations approval.

Planning doesn't take into account changing your mind. Or are you perfect at everything and always know what you're going to want two years down the line ban-all-sheds?

It's not 2 years down the line from having had your ceiling plastered.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

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Why would you not use a flange coupler?

 

[viewer]

Not quite sure what your industrial type kitchen looks like, but, if I've got it right then the conduit will run across the ceiling and be fixed at each end. If this is right, then a consideration might be as to how far away from the ceiling you will need to fix the pipe. It will act as a dust-condensation-trap. If too close you will have problems cleaning it and your ceiling will get marked. It needs to be fitted far enough away from the ceiling for a cloth and fingers to get into the gap. Whilst this is not an electrical problem as such, it will have implications for the measurements and mountings of your junction boxes. HTH

 

[Lectrician]

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Why would you not use a flange coupler?

If you like them BAS, by all means recommend and use them.

Personally I think they are tat. They also most likely do not conform the BS.

 

[Flipjango]

Thank you thank you everyone (except ban-all-sheds who's input hasn't been welcome or helpful, and who doesn't seem to understand Part P or the difference between changing a light fitting which is non-notifiable even in a kitchen and adding in extra lights to the loop which is).

Very very good point viewer. I might have to have a rethink as I wanted the galvanised screwed to the ceiling, but I don't really want drippy sticky yuck dropping down when it gets all greasy! Other option is simple looped wires across the ceiling which I've seen done to good effect in some trendy bars.

Thanks all!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If you like them BAS, by all means recommend and use them.

Personally I think they are tat. They also most likely do not conform the BS.

Why would they not comply?

What would you use to connect conduit to trunking?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Thank you thank you everyone (except ban-all-sheds who's input hasn't been welcome or helpful, and who doesn't seem to understand Part P

I do understand Part P.

Not sure why you've mentioned it though, as it's not relevant to the question I asked. Of course you have to comply with that, as it applies to any work whatsoever on fixed electrical cables or fixed electrical equipment located on the consumer’s side of the electricity supply meter which operate at low or extra-low voltage and are—
(a) in or attached to a dwelling;
(b) in the common parts of a building serving one or more dwellings, but excluding power supplies to lifts;
(c) in a building that receives its electricity from a source located within or shared with a dwelling; or
(d) in a garden or in or on land associated with a building where the electricity is from a source located within or shared with a dwelling.

But it has nothing to do with notification.

or the difference between changing a light fitting which is non-notifiable even in a kitchen and adding in extra lights to the loop which is).

I'm now looking at putting up new light fittings, but we've realised that our kitchen lighting design isn't ideal and would like to add in a couple of extra lights.

 

[Flipjango]

I think you'll find Part P also dictates who can undertake what work and where domestic installers are required (and not required) to notify building regulations.
From the NICEIC Part P factsheet:

"The requirements of Part P apply to most electrical work in your home. There are
however, certain relaxations that apply for minor work.
Minor work
‘Minor work’ is electrical work that does not involve the addition of a new circuit, for
example adding new sockets or light switches to an existing circuit, or the replacement
of sockets, light switches and ceiling roses. This work does not have to be undertaken
by a registered electrician and you do not need to notify your local building control office.
However, ALL electrical work must comply with BS 7671, the wiring regulations."

My comment about you not understanding Part P stands.

 

[bernardgreen]

I think you'll find Part P also dictates who can undertake what work

No it does NOT

Anyone can do electrical work PROVIDED they comply with the requirements of Part P and notify the building control office of the work if it is notifiable work and comply with the requirements the BCO insist on.

That is anyone who has the necessary knowledge, skills and equipment to design and then carry out the work in a safe manner that the BCO are willing to accept.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I think you'll find Part P also dictates who can undertake what work and where domestic installers are required (and not required) to notify building regulations.

It does not.

This is Part P:

From the NICEIC Part P factsheet:

"The requirements of Part P apply to most electrical work in your home.

Wrong - the requirements of Part P apply to all electrical work in your home. As you can see from the above.

There are
however, certain relaxations that apply for minor work.
Minor work
‘Minor work’ is electrical work that does not involve the addition of a new circuit, for
example adding new sockets or light switches to an existing circuit, or the replacement
of sockets, light switches and ceiling roses. This work does not have to be undertaken
by a registered electrician and you do not need to notify your local building control office.

Whether work is notifiable or not is an entirely separate issue from Part P, as you can see.

My comment about you not understanding Part P stands.

It is not I who does not understand it.

 

[Lectrician]

If you like them BAS, by all means recommend and use them.

Personally I think they are tat. They also most likely do not conform the BS.

Why would they not comply?

What would you use to connect conduit to trunking?

I would use a British Standard conduit coupler and bush, and cut a thread on the end of the conduit, as intended.

I wouldn't use a flimsy piece of steel attached to the conduit with a grub-screw.

 

[333rocky333]

Thank you thank you everyone (except ban-all-sheds who's input hasn't been welcome or helpful, and who doesn't seem to understand Part P or the difference between changing a light fitting which is non-notifiable even in a kitchen and adding in extra lights to the loop which is).

Was about to offer the loan of a vice and dies till i read that comment
Imo Bas does a lot of good for this forum free of charge, evident by the amount of Thanks posted

 

[Flipjango]

Hey, can only go on the response I received from him, which was a bit of smug 'why didn't you plan it better' claptrap based on lack of knowledge of the situation. Not helpful, not friendly, and not nice!

 

[333rocky333]

I wouldn't use a flimsy piece of steel attached to the conduit with a grub-screw.

Was it definetly a grub screw, ive got some like that and its a sort of machined rivet to attach an internal spring to maintain the tension

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