That's what I meant when I wrote that they appear to be " 'easily led'/bullied/whatever ". ... not to mention the 'commercial interests'.No - they just want an easy life.
Kind Regards, John
That's what I meant when I wrote that they appear to be " 'easily led'/bullied/whatever ". ... not to mention the 'commercial interests'.No - they just want an easy life.
What is the reason that consumer units need to be made of metal rather than plastic as they were a few years ago?
That may be true for some of us but, unfortunately in some senses, self-cert scheme members are generally constrained to comply fully with BS7671.So the IET can continue selling expensive books of regulations that will be increasingly ignored.
If only... are generally constrained to comply fully with BS7671.
These things certainly happen, but it doesn't alter the fact that Scheme members are, as far as I am aware, generally required to work fully to BS7671. The fact that that's what they are meant to do obviously doesn't mean that all of them always do!If onlyMy Mum's new house has at least three non-compliances that I can spot easily - and I don't mean esoteric stuff, basics like ignoring the rules on safe zones etc
But it's OK, they've signed it off
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If you are working on electrical installations and ignoring the regs you are an idiot.So the IET can continue selling expensive books of regulations that will be increasingly ignored.

I would say it is because poor design of some MCB's and RCBO's did not hold open the terminal when unscrewed, but allowed it to flap around between closed and open, where used with restricted room, it was all too easy for the buzz bar to be wrong side of the terminal being just pressed hard against the buzz bar rather than fully clamping the buzz bar. This in turn in time could result in a bad connection, which in turn resulted in over heating and fires. The London Fire Brigade realised there was a problem, however they are not electrical engineers, they are firemen, so recommended non flammable enclosures. Changing design means more units sold, so simply having a metal enclosure generates more money than getting the industry to recall all MCB's which when the terminal when opened don't hold it open.
Don't mock. I presume that is eric's voice recognition software at work!buzz bar ?
Yours isn't too good either. Sorry, couldn't resist.Ah, apolgies Eric, not possessing the talents of Mistic Meg i am not aware you use VRS.
John, obvously posesses this skill
Simpler than that - no Mystic Meg needed, since he's written about it on numerous occasions.Ah, apolgies Eric, not possessing the talents of Mistic Meg i am not aware you use VRS. John, obvously posesses this skill.

do you perhaps just ignore all the words underlined in red?
No, but, when I'm posting in haste, I often overlook words highlighted by the spell-checker!John, have you added typos to your dictionary then?!?!"teh" - from ---> Led Mirror with always on Demister pad
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