Could the outcome of NI the election be the real beginnings of reunification?

[Vinty]

however it’s a milestone that NI has a majority political party which is pro United Ireland

The nationalist vote in N.I. is finite.
For SF to get more votes, they have to get them at the expense of other nationalist parties, the SDLP which is a Constitutional nationalist party lost 4 seats because a lot of nationalist voters switched to SF.

 

[Nige F]

We Want Vinn to opine on this - he's Irish

 

[transam]

Bit by bit the predictions of what the brexiteers claimed to be 'project fear' are coming true...

N.I voted to stay in the EU, and the younger generation overwhelming so. The traditional unionist loyalties are being eroded, as that younger generation see the opportunities lost due to the old fashioned thinking of many a coffin dodger!

And indeed many have been derided for suggesting that there will be a unification vote before the end of the decade, but this election result is the next step towards that...

The question is will it be N.I. or Scotland first?

well your happy than

 

[JohnD]

Could the outcome of NI the election be the real beginnings of reunification

or deunification.

breakup of the dUK caused by bumbling brexers.

remember theresa may said she could never agree to a UK internal border, and no UK PM could?

but Johnson did.

"get brexit done"

and **** the consequences

oven ready my asre

mottie doesn't care.

 

[ajohn]

The nationalist vote in N.I. is finite.

% wise with the voters I think you will find it's still the highest or extremely close to being. There is a more extreme nationalist group and some voted for them. If you want to comment you should check.

The neither one or the other party came 3rd this time. I wonder if those coming first or second has been accounted for in the agreement? They don't particularly support unification or the uk border aspects more the problems the people really have.

Westminster they want border control themselves and think the EU shouldn't care. Much was made about control of our own borders. Fallacy much like some other aspects. In fact the new border checks have been delayed yet again as thought to increase goods costs. Or is it because they haven't come up with a practical solution that allows us to do our own checks on everything than comes in including food.

 

[Justin Passing]

It may be because I see subdivisions of religion to be arguments about subdivisions of superstitions, but I really don't mind if Dublin becomes the governing authority for the whole island of Ireland. They seem to be civilised enough to deal with everyone fairly.

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And I don't want to go on about it, but I will: ajohn it's BORDER. Boarders are people who get on board.

Sorry if you're getting bored with this. You can't get boreder, it would be "more bored".

 

[ajohn]

but I will: ajohn it's BORDER. Boarder

Thanks that one seems to be thoroughly locked in. Some others generally aren't.

 

[ellal]

well your happy than

'happy than'?

Happier than what?

 

[Vinty]

or deunification.

breakup of the dUK caused by bumbling brexers

I agree with that.

 

[Vinty]

but I really don't mind if Dublin becomes the governing authority for the whole island of Ireland

Is that because you won't have to live there.

 

[Vinty]

or deunification.

breakup of the dUK caused by bumbling brexers.

remember theresa may said she could never agree to a UK internal border, and no UK PM could?

but Johnson did.

"get brexit done"

and **** the consequences

oven ready my asre

mottie doesn't care.

What about the reunification of the UK.
Tony Blair supercharged divisive nationalism by introducing devolution.

 

[noseall]

Is that because you won't have to live there.

You need to move on boyo, the rest of Ireland seems hungry to. The voters said so.

 

[noseall]

Tony Blair

For the love of God - move on.

 

[ajohn]

Tony Blair supercharged divisive nationalism by introducing devolution.

An attempt to try and prevent it by passing on the power to the groups concerned. Also history

However, in the wake of the New Labour victory of 1997 and the setting up of the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly there was a volte-face on such policy; the Conservative Party now wholeheartedly supported devolution while espousing the mantra that only they « could make devolution work

https://preo.u-bourgogne.fr/textesetcontextes/index.php?id=115

There is this aspect as well. Tax take and spending per head. There is a chart here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula

I think this is still the same. It appears to allow the devolved to get perks that the English don't get. prescriptions and university fees for instance. If separate they wont be able to use the GBP. That has been made clear and will have to come up with their own or use some other currency if allowed. Eg Join the EU. It's not clear that they would be accepted. Fiscal aspects need to work there as with any other country. IMF loans can mean insisting those are realistic.

 

[Justin Passing]

but I really don't mind if Dublin becomes the governing authority for the whole island of Ireland

Is that because you won't have to live there.

That's a loaded question, you could have said "happen to" rather than "have to" - but no I don't live there. I am a member of the UK so I am a "stakeholder" and am therefore entitled to be heard. My opinion doesn't weigh as much as one from someone who lives there but I do vote on the current government's policies. I'm happy for the locals and the two governments to sort it out, though it won't be easy. I would NOT support, say, a "special military operation" from either side, to resolve it.