but others have the power to stop him
It would be a shame if he was barred before he could fully explain what made him fixed on the idea of 13 Amp sockets on a lighting circuit being bad practice.
but others have the power to stop him
When I know it's a 6A circuit, I work within that capacity. However it appears winston1 insists on loading 13A sockets with higher power devices even though he knows the installation is not designed for it.It would be a shame if he was barred before he could fully explain what made him fixed on the idea of 13 Amp sockets on a lighting circuit being bad practice.
I would personally not lose sleep (indeed would probably 'sleep better') if his never being able to provide that 'fully explanation' was the price to be paid for ridding us of all this tedious nonsense.It would be a shame if he was barred before he could fully explain what made him fixed on the idea of 13 Amp sockets on a lighting circuit being bad practice.
doing no worse than you often do - 'worrying' about (and hence describing it as a 'bad practice')
unlikely that someone would come to serious harm as a result of being 'plunged into darkness' in a roof space
If you're saying you have some agreement with winston1 then i need to start panicking... I have 4 loft spaces and a total of 6, might even be 7, sockets on lighting circuits, which contain 4 ultrasonic animal deterants, router, microwave dish & 50W 2 way radio base station.I do not describe something that is very un-likely to happen as being bad practice. Yes I am risk aware and do, when creating a risk assessment I do include consideration of highly improbable events that would have significantly harmful results if they did happen.
If they immediately freeze motionless until their eyesight becomes accustomed to the dark then an accident is un-likely but not impossible. Having a torch to hand when working in a loft is sensible at all times.
Yes I do see where Winston1 is coming from. Mis-use of a socket by using it to supply a load greater than the designed maximum load could have un-wanted, even harmful results, when the MCB / fuse cuts the power.
But that situation, as already mentioned, is a result of poor design of the installation and/or the way it is mis-used.
If you're saying you have some agreement with winston1 then i need to start panicking..
Yes, I understand that - but, although he uses different (and incorrect/inappropriate) language to talk about them, it seems to be the same 'highly improbable events' which concern both of you. As you say ...I do not describe something that is very un-likely to happen as being bad practice. Yes I am risk aware and do, when creating a risk assessment I do include consideration of highly improbable events that would have significantly harmful results if they did happen.
Yes I do see where Winston1 is coming from. Mis-use of a socket by using it to supply a load greater than the designed maximum load could have un-wanted, even harmful results, when the MCB / fuse cuts the power.
I'm not so sure about that. As I think he recently wrote himself (in a post which seems to have been removed), I think winston's point was that, although he personally understands enough about the design of an installation to prevent him 'mis-using' it, one cannot ever know how other people will use it.But that situation, as already mentioned, is a result of poor design of the installation and/or the way it is mis-used.
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