Crimp???

[mo2]

If I use a regular crimp, heatshrink and then self amalgamating tape for a crimp joint. Can it be plastered over or should i enclose it in a jb or similar. Searching has confused me more than answering my question so can you just confirm for me.

422-01-04 Every termination of live conductors or joint between them shall be contained within an enclosure selected in accordance with Regulation 526-03-02

Does self amalgamating tape count?

 

[davy_owen_88]

To expand on what dingbat said:

Every termination and joint in a live conductor or PEN conductor shall be made within one of the following or a combination thereof:

a suitable accessory complying with the appropriate product standard
an equipment enclosure complying with the appropriate product standard
an enclosure formed or completed with building material which is non-combustible
an enclosure formed or completed by part of the building structure.


Every connection shall be accessible for inspection,testing and maintenance except for the following:

a joint designed to be buried in the ground
a compound filled or encapsulated joint
a connection between a cold tail and the heating element
a joint made by welding, soldering, brazing or compression tool
a joint forming part of the equipment complying with the appropriate product standard


So, a compression joint (crimp) does not need to be accessible and if it is within an 'enclosure formed or completed with building material which is non-combustible' (plaster) then it is fine.

Davy

 

[mo2]

Brilliant!

I'll still use the self a42685686ing tape and heatshrink.

 

[davy_owen_88]

I'll still use the self a42685686ing tape and heatshrink.

I'd hope so unless you want the MCB to stay in the off position permanently

 

[securespark]

I'll still use the self a42685686ing tape and heatshrink.

a42685686ing tape??

 

[Softus]

a42685686ing tape??

Yeah - self-a42685686ing tape.

 

[DESL]

a42685686ing

Is this some sort of code

 

[Softus]

Is this some sort of code

No <sigh>, it's a kind of tape!

 

[securespark]

Beats me!

But that's how it appeared in mo2's post of 8.39....

 

[mo2]

Beats me!

But that's how it appeared in mo2's post of 8.39....

laziness really...

I hate the word 'amalgamating' and like the word 'waffles'.

 

[securespark]

[Sings happily]

"bird's Eye Potato Waffles, Waffly versatile!!"

 

[Softus]

...and like the word 'waffles'.

Isn't that Jonathan Ross's favourite night club?

 

[Pensdown]

If I use a regular crimp, heatshrink and then self amalgamating tape for a crimp joint. Can it be plastered over or should i enclose it in a jb or similar. Searching has confused me more than answering my question so can you just confirm for me.

422-01-04 Every termination of live conductors or joint between them shall be contained within an enclosure selected in accordance with Regulation 526-03-02

Does self amalgamating tape count?

Regardless of what you can and can't do within the current regs IMO your proposal is a bodge.

Why does the joint have to be be in wall, surely there must be a better alternative?

 

[mo2]

If I use a regular crimp, heatshrink and then self amalgamating tape for a crimp joint. Can it be plastered over or should i enclose it in a jb or similar. Searching has confused me more than answering my question so can you just confirm for me.

422-01-04 Every termination of live conductors or joint between them shall be contained within an enclosure selected in accordance with Regulation 526-03-02

Does self amalgamating tape count?

Regardless of what you can and can't do within the current regs IMO your proposal is a bodge.

Why does the joint have to be be in wall, surely there must be a better alternative?

like? (there is no ther way, but to replace the whole run of cable, which is not possible)

 

[Softus]

Regardless of what you can and can't do within the current regs IMO your proposal is a bodge.

From a relatively lay viewpoint, this doesn't appear to be a bodge.

Doing a half-hearted job for reasons of laziness and/or incompetence would be a bodge, but isn't a suitably protected (from moisture) crimped joint a legitimate method to use in the circumstances?