Dedicated LED spots vs GU10 LED lamps

[drmrbrewer]

What's the consensus for LED downlight spots (e.g. for kitchen ceiling)? One of the type of dedicated LED fittings, or standard GU10 fittings with LED lamps rather than halogens?

Thanks.

 

[333rocky333]

Think of the size of a Gu10 lamp personally I dont think something crammed into the size of it wiill come close to the reliability of a purpose made unit

 

[sparkybird]

These are very nice - go for the neutral white as the warm white is a little too orangey for my liking

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...ownlights_Index/LEDlite_Downlights/index.html

 

[drmrbrewer]

yep I can't help feeling that sticking an LED lamp (with integrated heatsink) in an existing MR16 / GU10 fitting is a compromise.

Thanks for the recommendation sparkybird. Is it just me, but I can't see any power or brightness (lumens) ratings for those LEDlites. They look good though. Fire rated too... I've seen some others that look good but they don't claim any fire rating. Assume therefore that these LEDlites can be used in kitchens, bathrooms, any room (UK).

And, what is the minimum required -- just the top item (LT FRD12xx)?

Finally, do you prefer "neutral" or "daylight"?

Thanks!

 

[sparkybird]

Daylight will be too 'white' - go for neutral

Use them anywhere

There should be output data there - but I would say almost equivalent light output to 50W halogen

 

[drmrbrewer]

OK I see the data -- lots of it (real test data).

Can see a cutout measurement (quite small in fact), but no overall diameter -- do you know?

And do you happen to know if they do a tiltable version? I need to put some in a sloping roof.

 

[sparkybird]

No tilt version as this would compromise the IP and fire rating

Call TLC for the overall dims

 

[drmrbrewer]

Re tilt: I guess it would compromise fire rating as it stands, but there are tilt fittings that are fire rated... I assume with a fire hood or enclosure over the top... so no reason why you couldn't have a tiltable version?

 

[sparkybird]

well yes, except they don't make one! You'll have to find another brand...

good luck

 

[ban-all-sheds]

No matter how high the lm/w figure is, little lights which closely resemble torches recessed into the ceiling are not an efficient way to light a room - as many people find you have to work around their inefficiency by using lots of them.

Large lights are the way to go - they can still be recessed. If you want LED there's the Thorn BaseLED, for example, which looks good on paper:

http://www.thornlighting.co.uk/download/Base_LED_Brochure.pdf

http://www.thornlighting.co.uk/PDB/Ressource/teaser/E2/TLG_BaseLED.pdf

http://www.thornlighting.co.uk/object/PDF/datasheet.aspx?CompanyID=7&GroupID=12650&CL=E2&CC=GB


CFLs are a viable alternative for efficient recessed lightig - these are a typical example:



I've got some in my kitchen and they're pretty unobtrusive.