Democracy? What kind of democracy is this?

[durhamplumber]

You'll agree that England invaded most of the globe

Normandy

Sure...1944..you are nuts.

 

[durhamplumber]

You'll agree that England invaded most of the globe

Normandy

Sure...1944..you are nuts.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

We've got it, that's why we're leading the way with vaccination, that's why we're talking about coming out of lockdown whilst Europe is staring in the face of a third wave and further lockdowns

To be charitable, UK desperately needed something.

Last year, March/April 2020

Promptly siphoned off to contractors via emergency contracts.

 

[durhamplumber]

It would be hard to find anyone with less sense of honesty, truth and decency than our Buffoon.

Labour Party is good place to look.Or SNP in your case Joan.

 

[Vinty]

NOT communities, but nominated representatives of those communities, and nominated representatives indicated as voting on behalf of those communities

You are playing with words again, there are 2 communities, the Nationalist community represented by SF/IRA and the Unionist community represented by DUP/Ulster Unionist.
Nothing of importance can be approved without the consent of a majority of representives from both communities.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You are playing with words again, there are 2 communities, the Nationalist community represented by SF/IRA and the Unionist community represented by DUP/Ulster Unionist.
Nothing of importance can be approved without the consent of a majority of representives from both communities.

That's nearly what I said, except, most decisions are taken on a simple majority in the Assembly.
Important decisions need the approval of both parties (or those parties indicated as partisan parties) in the Assembly.

Now we agree that it is the representatives of the communities, not the communities that make important decisions.
But my comment about the border poll still holds true, the format for when the border poll is conducted is not properly decided.

 

[Vinty]

That's nearly what I said, except, most decisions are taken on a simple majority in the Assembly

You left out the "petition of concern" mechanism which allows either the Nationalist or Unionist block to vetoe any legislation they don't agree with.

 

[Vinty]

But my comment about the border poll still holds true, the format for when the border poll is conducted is not properly decided

I pointed out that even Irish nationalists don't want a simple majority vote in any border poll.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.amp.../19/sdlp-poll-united-ireland-trigger-conflict

 

[Vinty]

If you're going to spew out your nonsense, especially after evidence has been provided to disprove your nonsense, there's little point in refuting your nonsense each time, because you'll just keep repeating it ad infinitum

Get you head out of the sand.
Maggie Thatcher considered a form of repartition,
I just outlined one possible outcome of any attempt to annexe N.Ireland.

 

[Vinty]

And the flag of a 'third country'...

Just as the 'Union' Jack is now referred to by the EU !

At the end of 1921 the Partition of Ireland was imposed...

A century on and a justifiable reunification is back on the table

It won't happen, as a distinct ethnic minority the Unionists of Ulster have the right to self determination, just as the other nations of the British Isles enjoy.
Read below.
https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/how-northern-england-made-southern-united-states

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

It won't happen, as a distinct ethnic minority the Unionists of Ulster have the right to self determination, just as the other nations of the British Isles enjoy.
Read below.
https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/how-northern-england-made-southern-united-states

Since when have NI protestants been "a distinct ethnic minority"?
They may be a political party, they be a political force, but in no way are they "a distinct ethnic minority".
Both Catholics and Protestants are a political/religious minority in NI (45% and 48% respectively, I think).

 

[Vinty]

Since when have NI protestants been "a distinct ethnic minority"?
They may be a political party, they be a political force, but in no way are they "a distinct ethnic minority".
Both Catholics and Protestants are a political/religious minority in NI (45% and 48% respectively, I think).

.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Protestants#:~:text=Ulster Protestants are an ethnoreligious,early 17th century Ulster Plantation.
They are also known as the Scotch/Irish in America.
https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/how-northern-england-made-southern-united-states

You seem to believe that a black or brown face is required to considered an ethnic minority.
https://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/scotirish.htm

 

[Vinty]

Since when have NI protestants been "a distinct ethnic minority"?
They may be a political party, they be a political force, but in no way are they "a distinct ethnic minority".
Both Catholics and Protestants are a political/religious minority in NI (45% and 48% respectively, I think).

One point i would agree with you on is that the Roman Catholic community is more closely related ethnically with the Ulster Protestant community than their Co religionists in the RoI.

 

[ellal]

It won't happen, as a distinct ethnic minority the Unionists of Ulster have the right to self determination, just as the other nations of the British Isles enjoy.

It will, it's just a matter of time...

The tide has turned already!

And of course you have just made the case for a Scottish Indyref2

Self Determination

 

[durhamplumber]

Self Determination

EU determination.