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Mow everyone else down with a machine gun so they can't breathe on you. Or is that not the "right" you were thinking of?
 
Mow everyone else down with a machine gun so they can't breathe on you. Or is that not the "right" you were thinking of?

The obvious alternative was accepting a rising death toll, an NHS inundated, lots of very ill people and people with long term issues.
 
The passports are obviously worth having, if you want to live a relatively normal life, such as going to concerts, nightclubs, events, travel abroad etc.
Of course if you want to stay at home and do nothing, you won't need a passport, so why denigrate it if you don't want or need one.

I shall say it one more time.

Attending a covid pass controlled event does not mean you will not catch the disease from a vaccinated person.

Got it, dumbass?
 
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I shall say it one more time.

Attending a covid pass controlled event does not mean you will not catch the disease from a vaccinated person.

Got it, dumbass?
Of course, because there will only be vaccinated or negatively tested people there. You could just as easily (actually just as likely) catch it from an unvaccinated person who has inappropriately completed a test, or someone who has forged a passport.
If non-vaccinated and those without negative test results were allowed your chance of catching it would go up by some considerable factor.

Now if you persist with your flawed logic of insisting some one is at high risk of catching Covid at a controlled event, I'll continue to ridicule your logic and present analogies to show how your logic is fatuous.

Boats are extremely dangerous and cause most drownings because most drownings involve a boat, according to ELFImpudence's logic. :rolleyes:
 
Of course, because there will only be vaccinated or negatively tested people there. You could just as easily (actually just as likely) catch it from an unvaccinated person who has inappropriately completed a test, or someone who has forged a passport.
Errm, tink you mean MORE likely?


If non-vaccinated and those without negative test results were allowed your chance of catching it would go up by some considerable factor.

Now if you persist with your
flawed logic of insisting some one is at high risk of catching Covid at a controlled event, I'll continue to ridicule your logic and present analogies to show how your logic is fatuous.

Boats are extremely dangerous and cause most drownings because most drownings involve a boat, according to ELFImpudence's logic.
:rolleyes:
 
Errm, tink you mean MORE likely?
Yes, probably.

But let me explain in detail how ELFImpudence's fatuous ramblings illustrates his flawed logic:
I'm pretty sure that ELFImpudence has demonstrated his suspicion of the efficacy of the vaccines as protection against Covid, etc. But he's never actually demonstrated that he's a confirmed anti-vaxxer, nor a definite pro-vaxxer. He prefers to spew out some fatuous garbage from time to time in an attempt to denigrate the vaccine, without committing himself too much to either argument.
His fatuous repetition of 'Covid passport holders must be responsible for any spreading of disease at a controlled event' is a typical tinkering around the edges of his attempt to denigrate the vaccine efficacy, without committing himself too much to one argument nor the other.
Basically he's a fence sitter. He's scared of being proven wrong, so he avoids committing himself to one side or the other, so he will throw in a fatuous comment occasionally, to try to tip the argument one way or the other, and invariably, it's to the illogical side of the discussion.
His 'Covid passport holders being responsible for spreading Covid at controlled events' is a fairly typical example.
That argument completely ignores the minute probability of anyone at the event having Covid, spreading it, or anyone else catching it is extremely diminished because they have all either been vaccinated, or they have had negative tests.
It also ignores the possibility of the infected person having caught it on the way to the event, or afterwards. It also ignores the possibility of someone who has had a negative test (either a false negative, or having since caught Covid), or someone having forged a passport or a test result being the culprit for spreading Covid.
His argument also fails to mention that vaccinated people, not only have reduced symptoms, and therefore less likely to spread the virus, but also anyone that does catch it at the controlled event will also avoid being seriously ill or dying.

So his flawed logic, in pursuing his fatuous argument completely dismissed the other possible reasons or ways that someone could catch Covid, and IF they did, how much less serious it would be.
That's why his logic is flawed and his argument fatuous.
It's a shame that he doesn't put, what he considers his towering intellect, to productive and positive work instead of his tinkering around the edges trying to be negative or unproductive without exposing himself to ridicule.
 
I shall say it one more time.

Attending a covid pass controlled event does not mean you will not catch the disease from a vaccinated person.

Got it, dumbass?
It helps reduce the chance though.

and it encourages more people to get vaccinated….which helps reduce hospitalisations, which leaves more capacity for hospitals.
 
It helps reduce the chance though.

and it encourages more people to get vaccinated….which helps reduce hospitalisations, which leaves more capacity for hospitals.
It not only reduces the chance, if by that greatly reduced chance it does happen, it also reduces the number of persons affected, thereby reducing the transmissibility of the virus, thereby greatly affecting the course of the pandemic, thereby saving an immeasurable amount of lives and suffering.
But ELFImpudence wants to denigrate the vaccine without publicly declaring himself as an anti-vaxxer.
To do that he has to tinker around the edges with fatuous arguments.
 
It not only reduces the chance, if by that greatly reduced chance it does happen, it also reduces the number of persons affected, thereby reducing the transmissibility of the virus, thereby greatly affecting the course of the pandemic, thereby saving an immeasurable amount of lives and suffering.
But ELFImpudence wants to denigrate the vaccine without publicly declaring himself as an anti-vaxxer.
To do that he has to tinker around the edges with fatuous arguments.
Your comment greatly reduces I take it you have the facts and figures to back that up? What is the percentage reduction that it would reduce it by
 
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