DITRA HEAT installation options

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Hello all,

Looking at putting in underfloor heating in the en-suite. Electric heating is compatible with the uncoupling membrane, or at least is an option.

It requires it's own circuit which means that unless I can repurpose an existing circuit, I'll need to get qualified person in to do it, is that correct?

From what I can tell, the size of our installation would require 450-525W at 117 and 100 Ohm respectively.

Am I correct in thinking that there is unlikely to be anything in the vicinity of the ensuite which would be suitable?

The issue is that this is on the top floor of the house, literally as far away from the consumer unit as you can get, so running a new cable properly will be a major job. If there are options to repurpose, I'd like to.

Up there we have what you'd expect. Extractor fan, lighting and a shaver socket. There is a double mains socket on the floor below, directly below the ensuite.

I'm probably on a hiding to nothing, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks
 
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It is generally a bad idea to use electric underfloor heat in a small bathroom. A hot towel rail will serve you better, preferably heated by water. Try to decide if you want a warm room, a warm floor, and when you want it to be warm. I have heard nothing but bad reports from people trying this.
 
Yes one I fitted was useless, in the main other than storage radiators and the like main idea with any heating to react fast, there is a balance too fast like inferred and you feel cold as soon as it switches off, but under floor heating takes around 2 hours for the floor to get warm so hours for room to get warm, so does not really work.

However 1 kW is not much of a load, and likely can be supplied from a 13A socket outlet with a FCU or if not already RCD protected a RCD FCU. So there is a possibility it will work, if the room is used 24/7.

Under floor heating is great for a care home, you need it hot all the time but nothing that can burn, but in the main in the family home we want to only heat a room when required.

As a P.S. the Reychem type auto adjusts floor temperature and does not need sensors in the floor, but most need some sensor to stop floor exceeding 27°C.
 
It's not really to heat the room, just to keep the tiles warm/dry them out as its going to be a wet room. It also has intelligent controls so links with the rest of the smart home devices we have apparently, allowing pre-heating and so on.

It does seem to have sensors in the floor. It's a complete system from Schluter including walls and so on for the wet room.
 
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The one I fitted was also in a wet room, so I will explain the problems in the hope you don't make the same mistakes.
1) The builder used out of date tile cement, whole lot had to be lifted and new heating element as he damaged the original.
2) The 90° bend on the sensor pocket was too sharp, and when the sensor failed it got stuck in the pocket.
3) We used sculptured tiles for grip, but they held pools of water so they took longer to dry.
4) The air into the room was from the hall, which was cool, so the extractor pumped out more heat than the floor could replace, lucky also had a towel rail so room was really heated by the towel rail.
5) On using the shower it cooled the floor, we really did not expect this, one would have thought hot water would heat the floor, once cool it took an hour to re-heat, and if the floor was scraped into drain, to get rid of water in sculptured tiles, it was still 2 hours from using shower before floor was dry.
6) The thermostat failed.
7) The sensor failed.
8) The shower had to be replaced, was a power shower, but when system boiler was replaced with a combi boiler law says can't use power shower, from then on could not wash ceiling with shower, not that we really wanted to, but shower power was much lower.
9) The under sink cupboard which was claimed to be for a wet room fell apart.
10) The sink fell off the wall as it seems it was only supported by the under sink cupboard, although it took a year after cupboard was removed before the silicon sealant gave way.

We found that the insulation put under the floor before fitting the under floor heating resulted in the floor being no where near as cold as rest of house it was on the ground floor, my mother was an amputee and the idea was to try the floor, in real terms it did not work, a simple mop did a better job, we had expected that is she waited 5 minutes in shower once complete the floor would be dry, no chance it took 2 hours, so to use the wall mounted toilet it needed mopping.

My sister would not allow use to do the wet room our selves, she said we never completed a job, to be fair likely true, so she found a bathroom specialist firm to do it. Main thing was time, it had to be ready when mother came out of hospital, it wasn't ready so she went into care home for two weeks, and still not ready when she came home, she had to basic live in a building site and after another two weeks my son lost his temper with them, and they walked off site, so thinking they had done it all correct, we informed the LABC we were taking over the work, seems builder had not submitted anything to LABC and they came to inspect, they said it all seemed OK, however they missed that one lintel on door way was only supported on one side where they had moved door opening.

They wanted us to employ some one to do the electrics, my son said OK as long as they are higher qualified than my dad, he has a degree, only then were we allowed to do electrics our selves. We had to rip out nearly all the builder had done because of the out of date tile cement and start again, that took about 3 weeks, the only bit we did not DIY was the lintel we had a builder do that for us.

The whole job was a nightmare, and my poor sister got the brunt of it as she has insisted we used a builder. And after all the problems with LABC on completion they did not even look at the job, the completion certificate just arrived in the post, after I had submitted the installation certificate for the electrics. It was done around 2004/5 and we left house in 2019 after my mothers death, we did use the under floor heating, but it was not really worth all the hassle, had we not need the special tile cement for the tiles on the heating cables then likely it would not have been out of date, and the builder would have finished on time, although with a lintel only supported on one side.

Because it was for mothers disability there was no LABC charge, but the inspector was rather short with us for not telling them before starting the work, we said we thought builder was doing it, but he said it was owners responsibility to tell them not builder. We tried to get money back off builder, but council beat us to it, and result builder was declared bankrupt.

I really do hope your wet room goes better than ours.
 

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