Do i need to change Consumer Unit no more fuses for shed.

[clubb699]

Hi all,

Few questions please im currently having a Shed 15 Meters from my house i would like it to be used for a Model railway, a PC and 1 spare socket that would be used for something like a hoover, also a waterproof socket outside the shed for the Lawn mower, and 2 lights or may be 1 strip light instead.

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1/ Do i need to replace the whole consumer unit( well not me a Qualified elec ) or is there an addon CU i can purchase.

2/ Will 2.5 armoured cable be anough for the length im covering regarding Voltage drops?(I measured up to 25 Meters Max underground route) also can the armoured cable go along the house wall once its come up out the ground from across the garden soil area or does it need to go underground out the way untill it reaches the point it enters the house?

3/ Finally can i add the electrics myslelf from within the shed from the armoured cable?

Thanks for your time

Clubb699

 

[Spark123]

1) No sign of RCD protection so it would be advisable to have your CU replaced.
2) 2.5mm² does seem a little bit on the small side to me.
3) What part of the UK do you live in?

 

[clubb699]

Thanks for the reply

CU replacement would this then have anough room for the extra armoured cable or do i need another addon CU along side of CU replacment also?

Ok what sort of cable thickness would i be after for the armour cabling then?

Im in wolverhampton West Midlands ( Anyone close anough fancy taking this on for the right price Hope i can ask this on here?)

 

[Spark123]

If you want a new CU then get the eleccy to install one with a few spare ways so you can expand at a later date, you may as well also have him do the armoured cable as a new circuit is notifiable to your LABC under part p.
What is your loading on the circuit going to be? Any heating?

 

[clubb699]

What is your loading on the circuit going to be? Any heating?

12 Volt Adaptor for Model railway.
Plug socket for Hoover or power tool (Normal Hand Drill)
2KW Heater
Personal Computer and monitor (2 sperate plugs needed)

2 Lights energy effecient 40 Watts

Outside Plug for Lawn Mower.

Thanks

 

[ban-all-sheds]

1/ Do i need to replace the whole consumer unit( well not me a Qualified elec ) or is there an addon CU i can purchase.

I hope the doesn't mean that you're not actually planning to get a qualified electrician.

A 2nd CU will be cheaper than replacing yours, although the latter is something you should be considering anyway.

2/ Will 2.5 armoured cable be anough for the length im covering regarding Voltage drops?(I measured up to 25 Meters Max underground route)

Will 15A be enough for your shed?

Do you enjoy digging trenches?

Why not ask the electrician to put in 10mm² and be done with it?

also can the armoured cable go along the house wall once its come up out the ground from across the garden soil area or does it need to go underground out the way untill it reaches the point it enters the house?

Along the wall will be fine.

3/ Finally can i add the electrics myslelf from within the shed from the armoured cable?

You may, but you'll have to notify your council first.

Whether you can or not I have no way of knowing....

 

[clubb699]

I hope the doesn't mean that you're not actually planning to get a qualified electrician.

A 2nd CU will be cheaper than replacing yours, although the latter is something you should be considering anyway.

Will 15A be enough for your shed?

Do you enjoy digging trenches?

Why not ask the electrician to put in 10mm² and be done with it?

Along the wall will be fine.



Whether you can or not I have no way of knowing....

Do you think im crazy or something >>>>> Explanation of a WINK took from the University of WINK symbols is below.

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Joking appart Yes i understand were your coming from but im not one of the Numptys that wants to kill myself

A 2nd CU will be cheaper than replacing yours, although the latter is something you should be considering anyway.

Thanks might aswell upgrade

Will 15A be enough for your shed?

Not sure hoping someone else could tell me that.

Do you enjoy digging trenches?

Yeah im up for anything.

Why not ask the electrician to put in 10mm² and be done with it?

How much is that for 25 meteres of 10MM cant seem to find that size there is 4MM though will that be ok


Along the wall will be fine.

Thanks



Whether you can or not I have no way of knowing....

Ok thanks will phone them up.

Cheers for the feedback.[/quote]

 

[RF Lighting]

How much is that for 25 meteres of 10MM cant seem to find that size there is 4MM though will that be ok

about £85 + vat. It probably is a little overkill, but no harm in using cable too big

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Joking appart Yes i understand were your coming from but im not one of the Numptys that wants to kill myself

That's what the numpties think as well...

Will 15A be enough for your shed?

Not sure hoping someone else could tell me that.

Hmmm - let's see - how might we find out what you will have in your shed...


(well it makes a change from that drugged-looking guy with the tea cosy on his head...)

Whether you can or not I have no way of knowing....

Ok thanks will phone them up.

How will they know? (whoever "they" are....)

 

[clubb699]

Like your Humor

Ok i did post above these replies hopeing it could be worked out the post said.

12 Volt Adaptor for Model railway.
Plug socket for Hoover or power tool (Normal Hand Drill)
2KW Heater
Personal Computer and monitor (2 sperate plugs needed)

2 Lights energy effecient 40 Watts

Outside Plug for Lawn Mower.

No more than this list would be used in , there is nothing else i want to use.

Cheers

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Seems to be crying out for a 16+6 garage unit supplied by 4mm² or 6mm² SWA, depending on total length, either from a breaker on the non-RCD side of the house CU, or from a switchfuse.

But assuming you were joking when you said you like digging trenches, you probably wouldn't want to do it again if your needs do change - "trench" is not a euphemism, it needs to be at least 400mm deep. So ask your electrician to quote for 10mm² as well - the % difference won't be large.

And consider a CU in the shed with spare ways, and one with a main switch not an RCD and use an RCBO for the socket - then if it does trip you won't lose the lights.

 

[clubb699]

Hi ban-all-sheds,

Thanks alot for that information looks like the 4MM will be the least to use then ive measured it to 25Meters with spare for inside shed and CU Connection i will confirm this with the Electrician and ask for a 10MM quote aswell.

Cheers