Does this look ok? - Kitchen Plugs

[sjw64]

Hi

Any advice if these look ok? I have stripped the tiles & units from my kitchen and revealed some plugs that dont look quite right.

I hope my attempts at uploading pics work !

The cooker plug & small seperate socket is about 35cm to the right of the hob. Its looks as if its just been pushed into loose plaster & then tiled over. I want to replace these to something a bit more 'nicer on the eye' as they look a bit taty. Also the white wire connecting the two is loose.

The light switch has bare copper exposed and the screws that seem to reach the rear housing.

But there is a small single socket that powered the fridge/freezer tucked away behind the old units - this has no clicky on/off switch - is this ok (I have a few of these dotted around the house)

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• sjw64
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[EFLImpudence]

The cooker plug & small seperate socket is about 35cm to the right of the hob.

That's fine.

Its looks as if its just been pushed into loose plaster & then tiled over. I want to replace these to something a bit more 'nicer on the eye' as they look a bit taty. Also the white wire connecting the two is loose.

You can fill/plaster and they will be fine.
You will need to anyway for proper tiling.

The light switch has bare copper exposed and the screws that seem to reach the rear housing.

Shorten the bare copper.
You can get different length screws or carefully cut them (go round rather than straight across) and gently file to a tapered end.

But there is a small single socket that powered the fridge/freezer tucked away behind the old units - this has no clicky on/off switch - is this ok (I have a few of these dotted around the house)

Yes, all ok.

 

[sjw64]

Yes, all ok.

Thanks EFLImpudence

 

[flyingsparks]

Yes, all ok.

No its not. That looks like a 1mm flex to me joined into the back of the cooker switch??

 

[EFLImpudence]

No its not. That looks like a 1mm flex to me joined into the back of the cooker switch??

That's ok. Fuse is in the FCU.

No grommet in back box if you want to be picky,

 

[flyingsparks]

No its not. That looks like a 1mm flex to me joined into the back of the cooker switch??

That's ok. Fuse is in the FCU.

No grommet in back box if you want to be picky,

How can a 1mm flex on what is probably a 32A breaker be ok? Looks to me like someone has been there bogging things together and an EICR may be in order?

 

[EFLImpudence]

433.3.1(i)

 

[flyingsparks]

433.3.1(i)

You don't know it's on the load side., perhaps the OP can let us know?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Sorry wrong reg.

433.2.2

 

[JBR]

Those last 3 remind me of Rimmer and Kryten on Red Dwarf!

 

[securespark]

This type of bodge gets my goat.

I know 433.2.2 is a get out, but it also makes reference to 434.2.1, which specifically suggests reinforcing the protection of the wiring against external influences.

If you're going to do that...

 

[EFLImpudence]

This type of bodge gets my goat.

Complying with the regulations is not the definition of a bodge.

I know 433.2.2 is a get out,

A get-out from being non-compliant?

but it also makes reference to 434.2.1, which specifically suggests reinforcing the protection of the wiring against external influences.

It's, what?, six inches long and going to be buried in the wall and tiled.

If you're going to do that...

...you may as well use 2.5mm² for spurs.


I take it you disagree for some reason.

 

[OwainDIYer]

This type of bodge gets my goat.

Complying with the regulations is not the definition of a bodge.

What happened to "good workmanship"?

 

[OwainDIYer]

light switch box needs earthing or earth sleeving - can't see which.

 

[stem]

light switch box needs earthing or earth sleeving - can't see which.

It looks like the old multi stranded cable without an earth conductor that went out of use in the 1960's. If it doesn't have an earth conductor, and the strands are breaking off or damaged, it's time for a rewire.