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No, you have said that empty shelves in supermarkets are because of Brexit.

I see you subscribe to the view that if you repeat things often enough, it becomes true.
A bit like repeating the benefits of brexit and how well it's going.

Or alternatively not being able to....
 
England and Scotland IMO
Rather unusual that that is the biggest benefit of brexit so far.
Brexiteers supporting the breakup of the UK ?
A bit different to what is normally claimed.

But yes I do think it may happen, because of brexit. Just not sure it is really a benefit.
 
Rather unusual that that is the biggest benefit of brexit so far.
Brexiteers supporting the breakup of the UK ?
A bit different to what is normally claimed.

But yes I do think it may happen, because of brexit. Just not sure it is really a benefit.

The SNP secretly welcomed the brexit vote

Benefits every one

Scots will be Better off as an independant nation

England benefits by not having Scotland as part of the union

Scotland join the EU meaning a hard border between Scot land and England

Tis a win win situation all round

If there was a vote in England on the caper the SNP could count on my support
 
1. Cheaper car insurance. In April UK scrapped the EU law that requires insurance on all motorised vehicles (golf buggies, ride on lawn mowers etc). Reduced red tape and avoided an estimated increase in insurance premiums of £50

2. The EU currently have approximately 40 trade deals in place. Since leaving the EU, UK has replicated all those trade deals apart from three, Algeria, Bosnia and Montenegro. Replicating those trade deals costs us nothing, we don't pay billions a year to have access to them.
Of those trade deals, the agreements with Singapore and Japan are on improved terms to the EU deal.
In addition, we have signed completely new trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand.

3.Gains for the UK fishing industry calculated at £50 million per year (NFFO report September 21), that's after taking into account costs for additional paperwork required.

4. Animal welfare, since leaving the EU, UK has implemented policies improving the treatment of livestock, put in place bans on the sale of furs and shark fins, banned the sale of foie gras from force fed geese. All not possible were we still in the EU.

5. Global influence, since leaving the EU, the UK soft power rating has increased making UK 2nd only to the USA.

6. Independence from the EU has allowed UK to be a leading player on supporting Ukraine against Russia, EU have eventually followed suit but weeks later, and begrudgingly due to their reliance on Russia.

7. UK has applied for membership of the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), aligning ourselves with the worlds fastest growing markets.

8. Leaving the EU has allowed us to set our own immigration policies.

9. Leaving the EU gives our chancellor the power to make cuts on things like VAT, not possible if we were in the EU.

10. As an EU member, 80% of all customs revenue on imports goes to the budget of the EU, leaving the UK with only 20% of that revenue. Outside of the EU, we retain 100% of that revenue, an extra £3bn a year.

11. UK has been able to reduce trade barriers with global partners, we now have less trade barriers than we did as a member of the EU. We've jumped to 4th position in the trade barrier index for free trade,
The Nigerian Govt commented 'the UK Global Tariff (UKGT) has reduced, removed or simplified tax on thousands of imported goods, an important step in reconfiguring Commonwealth trade’.

12. 20 trade deals due to be signed with US states and trade boosts in the Middle East with a 13 percent rise in Jordan alone.

Nobody said it was going to be quick and easy, all serious leave voters like myself knew that benefits would take several years, in truth, I'm gobsmacked at the amazing progress we've made in such a short time despite the most concerted efforts by our 'European friends' to place as many obstacles in the way as possible.

We have our sovereignty back, and it shows.

Perhaps the biggest brexit benefit will only start to be apparent in the next 12 months or so. The ECB has been reluctant to increase interest rates but they finally have, and they're ending the stimulus package.
It's going to be awfully difficult to conceal the debt the Mediterranean countries are carrying, Germany won't be able to help much with their trade surplus down to half a billion euros.

I see a big bang coming, we're well of of that s**t storm.
 
It’s what I claimed you said. The screenshots confirm it.
And everything I said has happened.

and it’s still going on.

I am sorry you are wrong, but that’s not a problem I can solve.
 
1. Cheaper car insurance. In April UK scrapped the EU law that requires insurance on all motorised vehicles (golf buggies, ride on lawn mowers etc). Reduced red tape and avoided an estimated increase in insurance premiums of £50

please explain why you think my car insurance will become cheaper when the retired motor mechanic who bumps into it is uninsured.
 
9. Leaving the EU gives our chancellor the power to make cuts on things like VAT, not possible if we were in the EU.

do you seriously believe UK was unable to reduce (or increase) taxes for more than 40 years?
 
1. Cheaper car insurance. In April UK scrapped the EU law that requires insurance on all motorised vehicles (golf buggies, ride on lawn mowers etc). Reduced red tape and avoided an estimated increase in insurance premiums of £50

2. The EU currently have approximately 40 trade deals in place. Since leaving the EU, UK has replicated all those trade deals apart from three, Algeria, Bosnia and Montenegro. Replicating those trade deals costs us nothing, we don't pay billions a year to have access to them.
Of those trade deals, the agreements with Singapore and Japan are on improved terms to the EU deal.
In addition, we have signed completely new trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand.

3.Gains for the UK fishing industry calculated at £50 million per year (NFFO report September 21), that's after taking into account costs for additional paperwork required.

4. Animal welfare, since leaving the EU, UK has implemented policies improving the treatment of livestock, put in place bans on the sale of furs and shark fins, banned the sale of foie gras from force fed geese. All not possible were we still in the EU.

5. Global influence, since leaving the EU, the UK soft power rating has increased making UK 2nd only to the USA.

6. Independence from the EU has allowed UK to be a leading player on supporting Ukraine against Russia, EU have eventually followed suit but weeks later, and begrudgingly due to their reliance on Russia.

7. UK has applied for membership of the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), aligning ourselves with the worlds fastest growing markets.

8. Leaving the EU has allowed us to set our own immigration policies.

9. Leaving the EU gives our chancellor the power to make cuts on things like VAT, not possible if we were in the EU.

10. As an EU member, 80% of all customs revenue on imports goes to the budget of the EU, leaving the UK with only 20% of that revenue. Outside of the EU, we retain 100% of that revenue, an extra £3bn a year.

11. UK has been able to reduce trade barriers with global partners, we now have less trade barriers than we did as a member of the EU. We've jumped to 4th position in the trade barrier index for free trade,
The Nigerian Govt commented 'the UK Global Tariff (UKGT) has reduced, removed or simplified tax on thousands of imported goods, an important step in reconfiguring Commonwealth trade’.

12. 20 trade deals due to be signed with US states and trade boosts in the Middle East with a 13 percent rise in Jordan alone.

Nobody said it was going to be quick and easy, all serious leave voters like myself knew that benefits would take several years, in truth, I'm gobsmacked at the amazing progress we've made in such a short time despite the most concerted efforts by our 'European friends' to place as many obstacles in the way as possible.

We have our sovereignty back, and it shows.

Perhaps the biggest brexit benefit will only start to be apparent in the next 12 months or so. The ECB has been reluctant to increase interest rates but they finally have, and they're ending the stimulus package.
It's going to be awfully difficult to conceal the debt the Mediterranean countries are carrying, Germany won't be able to help much with their trade surplus down to half a billion euros.

I see a big bang coming, we're well of of that s**t storm.
Well thank you for that. It will take time to reply to specifics but I don,t think some of those claims are accurate. I am sure you will have links to support those claims?
The obvious 1 that jumps out is point 8. That definitely doesn,t seem or feel tangible to me. Indeed there seems to be more immigration
legal and illegal than before. A lot of people seem to be jumping up and down about it. Rwanda was part of these policies ?
And to correct you we were told it was going to be quick and easy, but I am sure that was just the goalposts moving
 
Point 1 appears to be not as clear cut as you make out.
might or might not happen in EU.
might yet happen in UK. But the but that is correct is, for now!
 
3. I have never got to grips with the fishing situation other than to not a that UK fishers generally wanted brexi t until it happened and now wish we hadn,t left.
Paperwork reports from 2021 May well have been changed. Do you have any recent report?
 
4. From what I understand brexi t is a benefit for animal welfare.
But there may well be an open goal for lower standards of imports which will then worsen what we had before.

Probably too soon to claim it as a benefit, but more like a good short term change
 
5 you will need to put some supporting evidence in for that. I would suggest our reputation has gone down not up.
Countries do not like those that willingly try to break signed agreements

Feels a very very vague ambitious claim
 
6. Not really a tangible benefit.
I have no issue with our support along with that of other countries. But it has come at a cost not a benefit
I am sure you have evidence
 
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