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The eu ride on legislation was scrapped by the eu one country didn’t do it.
Care to guess which one?
 
gone said:
1. Cheaper car insurance. In April UK scrapped the EU law that requires insurance on all motorised vehicles (golf buggies, ride on lawn mowers etc). Reduced red tape and avoided an estimated increase in insurance premiums of £50

2. The EU currently have approximately 40 trade deals in place. Since leaving the EU, UK has replicated all those trade deals apart from three, Algeria, Bosnia and Montenegro. Replicating those trade deals costs us nothing, we don't pay billions a year to have access to them.
Of those trade deals, the agreements with Singapore and Japan are on improved terms to the EU deal.
In addition, we have signed completely new trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand.

3.Gains for the UK fishing industry calculated at £50 million per year (NFFO report September 21), that's after taking into account costs for additional paperwork required.

4. Animal welfare, since leaving the EU, UK has implemented policies improving the treatment of livestock, put in place bans on the sale of furs and shark fins, banned the sale of foie gras from force fed geese. All not possible were we still in the EU.

5. Global influence, since leaving the EU, the UK soft power rating has increased making UK 2nd only to the USA.

6. Independence from the EU has allowed UK to be a leading player on supporting Ukraine against Russia, EU have eventually followed suit but weeks later, and begrudgingly due to their reliance on Russia.

7. UK has applied for membership of the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), aligning ourselves with the worlds fastest growing markets.

8. Leaving the EU has allowed us to set our own immigration policies.

9. Leaving the EU gives our chancellor the power to make cuts on things like VAT, not possible if we were in the EU.

10. As an EU member, 80% of all customs revenue on imports goes to the budget of the EU, leaving the UK with only 20% of that revenue. Outside of the EU, we retain 100% of that revenue, an extra £3bn a year.

11. UK has been able to reduce trade barriers with global partners, we now have less trade barriers than we did as a member of the EU. We've jumped to 4th position in the trade barrier index for free trade,
The Nigerian Govt commented 'the UK Global Tariff (UKGT) has reduced, removed or simplified tax on thousands of imported goods, an important step in reconfiguring Commonwealth trade’.

12. 20 trade deals due to be signed with US states and trade boosts in the Middle East with a 13 percent rise in Jordan alone.

Nobody said it was going to be quick and easy, all serious leave voters like myself knew that benefits would take several years, in truth, I'm gobsmacked at the amazing progress we've made in such a short time despite the most concerted efforts by our 'European friends' to place as many obstacles in the way as possible.

We have our sovereignty back, and it shows.

Perhaps the biggest brexit benefit will only start to be apparent in the next 12 months or so. The ECB has been reluctant to increase interest rates but they finally have, and they're ending the stimulus package.
It's going to be awfully difficult to conceal the debt the Mediterranean countries are carrying, Germany won't be able to help much with their trade surplus down to half a billion euros.

I see a big bang coming, we're well of of that s**t storm.
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Exactly
 
gone said:
1. Cheaper car insurance. In April UK scrapped the EU law that requires insurance on all motorised vehicles (golf buggies, ride on lawn mowers etc). Reduced red tape and avoided an estimated increase in insurance premiums of £50

2. The EU currently have approximately 40 trade deals in place. Since leaving the EU, UK has replicated all those trade deals apart from three, Algeria, Bosnia and Montenegro. Replicating those trade deals costs us nothing, we don't pay billions a year to have access to them.
Of those trade deals, the agreements with Singapore and Japan are on improved terms to the EU deal.
In addition, we have signed completely new trade agreements with Australia and New Zealand.

3.Gains for the UK fishing industry calculated at £50 million per year (NFFO report September 21), that's after taking into account costs for additional paperwork required.

4. Animal welfare, since leaving the EU, UK has implemented policies improving the treatment of livestock, put in place bans on the sale of furs and shark fins, banned the sale of foie gras from force fed geese. All not possible were we still in the EU.

5. Global influence, since leaving the EU, the UK soft power rating has increased making UK 2nd only to the USA.

6. Independence from the EU has allowed UK to be a leading player on supporting Ukraine against Russia, EU have eventually followed suit but weeks later, and begrudgingly due to their reliance on Russia.

7. UK has applied for membership of the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), aligning ourselves with the worlds fastest growing markets.

8. Leaving the EU has allowed us to set our own immigration policies.

9. Leaving the EU gives our chancellor the power to make cuts on things like VAT, not possible if we were in the EU.

10. As an EU member, 80% of all customs revenue on imports goes to the budget of the EU, leaving the UK with only 20% of that revenue. Outside of the EU, we retain 100% of that revenue, an extra £3bn a year.

11. UK has been able to reduce trade barriers with global partners, we now have less trade barriers than we did as a member of the EU. We've jumped to 4th position in the trade barrier index for free trade,
The Nigerian Govt commented 'the UK Global Tariff (UKGT) has reduced, removed or simplified tax on thousands of imported goods, an important step in reconfiguring Commonwealth trade’.

12. 20 trade deals due to be signed with US states and trade boosts in the Middle East with a 13 percent rise in Jordan alone.

Nobody said it was going to be quick and easy, all serious leave voters like myself knew that benefits would take several years, in truth, I'm gobsmacked at the amazing progress we've made in such a short time despite the most concerted efforts by our 'European friends' to place as many obstacles in the way as possible.

We have our sovereignty back, and it shows.

Perhaps the biggest brexit benefit will only start to be apparent in the next 12 months or so. The ECB has been reluctant to increase interest rates but they finally have, and they're ending the stimulus package.
It's going to be awfully difficult to conceal the debt the Mediterranean countries are carrying, Germany won't be able to help much with their trade surplus down to half a billion euros.

I see a big bang coming, we're well of of that s**t storm.
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All of that is total crap of course...

But let's just take one of those, the first...

"This concerns the EU’s so-called ‘Vnuk’ law (named after a Slovenian worker who fell from a ladder after it was struck by a tractor and the ECJ ruling which followed) which requires motor insurance on private land for a wider range of ‘vehicles’, including buggies, ride-on lawnmowers and mobility scooters. The government claims that scrapping it saves an estimated £2bn in insurance premiums, worth about £50 for each British driver.

The £2bn figure comes from the government actuary’s department (GAD) which, in the impact analysis, admits they “have not been able to obtain any data to help quantify the extent to which cars are used on private land” but they make two big “assumptions.”

Because driving on private land would be insured, this activity and therefore the number of accidents will rise
Increased claim frequency will lead to an increase in fraud
The former will require higher premiums and the latter a higher levy by the Motor Insurers’ Bureau, which is responsible for compensation claims arising from accidents caused by uninsured or untraceable motorists.

However, the figure seems excessive given the total for all motor insurance claims in the UK in 2018 was only £7bn. The government appears to think nearly 30 percent of claims in future will be on private land, admitting that this does not include car parks, which are considered to be areas where the public has access.

Next, the impact analysis admits the EU Commission has already issued an inception impact assessment on the Vnuk case and has “proposed high level amendments to the Motor Insurance Directive which would clarify that use of vehicles on private land would not be within the scope of the Directive”.

So, the EU has already recognised the cost implications of the Vnuk ruling and plans to amend the EU-wide motor insurance directive in any case, so Brexit had little if any impact.

Conclusion: It appears the potential ‘savings’ may be unrealistically high and there is no advantage for UK drivers since European motorists will also be able to avoid taking out compulsory insurance for a wider range of vehicles used on private land."
 
ellal said:
All of that is total crap of course...

But let's just take one of those, the first...

"This concerns the EU’s so-called ‘Vnuk’ law (named after a Slovenian worker who fell from a ladder after it was struck by a tractor and the ECJ ruling which followed) which requires motor insurance on private land for a wider range of ‘vehicles’, including buggies, ride-on lawnmowers and mobility scooters. The government claims that scrapping it saves an estimated £2bn in insurance premiums, worth about £50 for each British driver.

The £2bn figure comes from the government actuary’s department (GAD) which, in the impact analysis, admits they “have not been able to obtain any data to help quantify the extent to which cars are used on private land” but they make two big “assumptions.”

Because driving on private land would be insured, this activity and therefore the number of accidents will rise
Increased claim frequency will lead to an increase in fraud
The former will require higher premiums and the latter a higher levy by the Motor Insurers’ Bureau, which is responsible for compensation claims arising from accidents caused by uninsured or untraceable motorists.

However, the figure seems excessive given the total for all motor insurance claims in the UK in 2018 was only £7bn. The government appears to think nearly 30 percent of claims in future will be on private land, admitting that this does not include car parks, which are considered to be areas where the public has access.

Next, the impact analysis admits the EU Commission has already issued an inception impact assessment on the Vnuk case and has “proposed high level amendments to the Motor Insurance Directive which would clarify that use of vehicles on private land would not be within the scope of the Directive”.

So, the EU has already recognised the cost implications of the Vnuk ruling and plans to amend the EU-wide motor insurance directive in any case, so Brexit had little if any impact.

Conclusion: It appears the potential ‘savings’ may be unrealistically high and there is no advantage for UK drivers since European motorists will also be able to avoid taking out compulsory insurance for a wider range of vehicles used on private land."
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I think I suffered 'whiplash' just reading your response. Can I claim?
 
gone said:
I think I suffered 'whiplash' just reading your response. Can I claim?
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Let's not counter the point, just try to change the tack of the thread.
no surprises.
any actual real benefits? I think we all agree that was an ambitious very contentious list you tried, with next to nothing, if anything, that is a real benefit.

was that it ? Or more to come yet? Notice nobody else can contribute to the benefits? And only you that thinks brexi t is working well !
 
carmanmemoranda said:
Let's not counter the point, just try to change the tack of the thread.
no surprises.
any actual real benefits? I think we all agree that was an ambitious very contentious list you tried, with next to nothing, if anything, that is a real benefit.

was that it ? Or more to come yet? Notice nobody else can contribute to the benefits? And only you that thinks brexi t is working well !
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Is Brexit upsetting you? Well, that's a big Brexit bonus.
 
Ihavenojob said:
Is Brexit upsetting you? Well, that's a big Brexit bonus.
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unlucky for you. Not upset, just wanting to see the benefits.
we voted out. We are out. No going back. I fully accept that.So you haven't even got that big brexi t bonus.

I just want to know who has got the benefits we were promised and if people think it is going well. Lots of things not going well.

it is possible to be a remain voter but accept the vote result. That's the camp I am in.

very difficult to have voted out and not get what you were promised . That's the camp that most brexi t voters are in.

easiest way to silence the remain voters is to prove they were wrong. Nobody has managed that yet though.
 
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