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Downlighters - how many?

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by chillout, 2 Aug 2009.

  1. chillout

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    In a room which is 11' x 13' including the bay, how many spots do you think I would need? I was going for 4 and 2 smaller ones in the bay area, so they're slightly dimmer. Would this be enough or would another 2 be better in ceiling area or overkill? All have transformers.
     
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    I've got 5 50W halogen GU10 downlights in an approx 8' x 7' bathroom, and wouldn't really want any less in there! But then again I have ceiling fan/luminaires in similar sized rooms to yours which each have only 3 50W GU10 lamps. The difference is that the fan/luminaires can have the lamps pointed outwards where they bounce of the walls (light coloured in my case) and do a perfectly good job of lighting the whole room. Recessed downlights, on the other hand, do a good job of illuminating the floor and boiling your retinas if you look up at the ceiling. I think you will find you need shed loads of downlights to adequately light a room that size!

    Liam

    Edit: Oh - and I often hear on here that 12V ones are even worse than 230V ones in terms of illumination.
     
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    Cheers mate, I'll give the sparki the good news tomorrow! I went from 6 to 4 in main part of ceiling and back to 6 now! Do you think its an idea to have fan/luminaires also. Any good websites to look these up, cant find much on them.

    And why none? They do look quite effective than just a single light. I will also be using bedside lamps.

    The 12v ones in store were definately brighter than the mains versions.
     
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    The angle of light from spot lights vary. Also the outputs vary. Using 2D spot lights fitted in every other ceiling tile is considered enough to light the room in my local pub. That's one every 4 foot.

    But your description could mean anything I am sure one 70W metal halide spot light would be far too much for any average room yet one 50W GU10 would look like a Toc H candle.

    To used spot lights to illuminate a picture on the wall is great but personally I agree with BAS that to light a whole room with spot lights is in inappropriate use of spot lights.

    I fitted 10 x 10W spot lights to a room which I said would not give enough light but customer insisted and it looked like a planetarium. I would not recommend spot lights for any normal room.
     
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    Cheers Mate, what would you recommend just a single normal light fitting? All the sparkis seem to have downlighters upstairs in their houses, alos alot of the refurbished propertys locally seem to also, but do see where your comin from though. What do you have?
     
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    Well, I like fans. Do you? :)

    My partner is malaysian and over there they have ginormous fans in most rooms. So it seemed natural to fit them in the bedrooms and the lounge in our renovation. Certainly beats having a desk fan pointing at you in bed if you get hot at nights. They have a use in all seasons over here to - in the winter you switch them to reverse and they up-pump helping convection from your rads.

    I've got these westinghouse ones from TLC - choose your favourite colour, then the type of light fitting you want. They appear to be discontinued so grab 'em while you can! I've 'tweaked' the internal wiring of mine so that I can operate the fan and lights independantly from the wall switches rather than with the silly pull-cord things.

    I would very much not fit recessed downlights in a normal use room of that size.

    Liam
     
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    downlighters are a fashion, and will in time fall out of favour. Like stone cladding, louvre doors, artex ceilings, laminate floors, plastic windows. Sadly when you get fed up with them you will be left with big ugly expensive holes in your ceilings.
     
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    John D I think you've hit the nail on the head to be honest. Is it alot of work involved for the sparki to take out the wires for the downlighters and change back to a single fitting?
     
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    Also should the light be in centre of room, or should I keep it where they used to have them in the old days near the window (to prevent silhouette of when you get undressed I believe?)

    Maybe a chandaleir would look nice in the bedroom?
     
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