Dude, where's my car?

[accelerator]

There should be zero tolerance for either drink or drug driving, and an immediate lifetime ban from driving. If caught driving afterwards, prison.

 

[SPLINE]

If you get in a car, the sentence should equal that of alcohol.

Drug drivng is two offences....driving under the influence plus possession of an illegal drug.

 

[Dec27]

Drug drivng is two offences....driving under the influence plus possession of an illegal drug.

It could be, I agree

 

[SPLINE]

It could be, I agree

Yes. Although both are utter scumbags, the drug driver is lower in the moral universe than the drink driver.

 

[noseall]

Yes. Although both are utter scumbags, the drug driver is lower in the moral universe than the drink driver.

People that Fromage can look up to.

 

[Highway Man]

The Independent reports Britain is facing a "drug-driving epidemic" as new figures reveal offences have surpassed drink-driving for the first time, a leading charity has warned. Data obtained by IAM RoadSmart shows 30,707 endorsements for drug-driving were added to licences in 2025, a 28 per cent increase from 23,981 three years earlier.

In contrast, drink-driving endorsements stood at 29,981 last year, a 17 per cent decrease from 35,976 in 2022.

Funny how when I suggested this a few months back, you and JohnD mocked me

 

[SPLINE]

Funny how when I suggested this a few months back, you and JohnD mocked me

They have both had a software update since then. Mutants controlled by the Labour Party.

 

[Murdochcat]

I concur with the (anecdotal) findings of @Dec27 . Not as noticable in cars as you usually have windows up and air con on. But on a bike it ruddy stinks. Personally I hate the stuff but having the odd toke at home is ok, as weed is proven not to be physically damaging really. But, I've often seen my mates neighbour smoke at least 2 joints at home and then roar off in his beemer. Trouble is, it's hard to test for drug driving without taking a blood sample. And when they do take samples, it's usually after the stoned driver has been cut out of a car

Plod has road side tests these days that they use and are pretty much accurate. Obviously a blood test is done after they are arrested at the road side

And I think drug driving is now a more common driving offence than drink driving

 

[Odds]

Funny how when I suggested this a few months back, you and JohnD mocked me

I don't remember that.

 

[Odds]

Drug use in 16-24 bracket have plummeted since 1998.

Drug use has risen in the over 40s in the same period as a tranche of people who abuse substances gradually grow older.

Drug misuse in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics

An overview of the extent and trends of illicit drug use. Data are from the Crime Survey for England and Wales.

www.ons.gov.uk

A 28% increase is hardly an 'epidemic' and the stats you quote for drug use in the 16-24 age bracket contradicts the findings of this study regarding drug driving. A paradox? I'd imagine the disparity between those age groups reflects the more experienced drug user isn't dumb enough to drive under the influence.

 

[IT Minion]

A 28% increase is hardly an 'epidemic' and the stats you quote for drug use in the 16-24 age bracket contradicts the findings of this study regarding drug driving. A paradox? I'd imagine the disparity between those age groups reflects the more experienced drug user isn't dumb enough to drive under the influence.

No it doesn't but you do need to think about it.

How many roadside drugs tests were run in 2022 compared to 2025. What proportion of tests were positive? Road side drugs testing has only fairly recently been widely rolled out. So there's no way to know if Drug driving is increasing or if we're just detecting more of it.

 

[Odds]

No it doesn't but you do need to think about it.

How many roadside drugs tests were run in 2022 compared to 2025. What proportion of tests were positive? Road side drugs testing has only fairly recently been widely rolled out. So there's no way to know if Drug driving is increasing or if we're just detecting more of it.

The latter, i suspect. Some folk can handle the buzz while others take one risk too many.
Were the tests given on an arbitrary basis or did the police have reason to suspect the driver was intoxicated?
if its become arbitrary to test anyone on the roads then it becomes an issue of personal freedom against a responsibility to prevent accidents. Accidents will happen but it isn't a police matter to infer one will do so given a small amount of a drug is taken. How much is necessary to take one over the limit - is there a limit? So many questions regarding this policy which is developing more rapidly than the law can abide.

The dude, as ever, abides.

 

[Odds]