Earth bonding cut for water meter

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  1. RMB

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    We recently had a water meter installed by the stopcock where the water supply enters the house. The installer cut the original earth cable that was attached and replaced it with a thinner one. The original cable came from under the floorboards and presumably was connected to the consumer unit. The new earth bonding doesn't actually go anywhere (see photo). I emailed the water company and they phoned to say this is correct. Is it? 1-S4060001.JPG 1-S4060003.JPG 1-S4060001.JPG
     
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    the wire they have put in is not a main bond, you still need one.

    the water co's earth maintains continuity each side of the meter, which might be plastic or could be removed.

    Is any part of your water pipe plastic?
     
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    The cut wire should be connected to the pipe coming out of the ground.

    The wire they have put on is not needed.
     
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    And why is there water all over it, is this a shower cubicle?
     
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    @JohnD and @EFLImpudence Thanks for all your replies. I shall contact the water company. @SUNRAY - the pipe is in one corner and 3ft away is a shower cubicle. The water is condensation.
     
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    Should that not be on the customers side of the stop valve? ie above the meter?
     
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    No.

    You're thinking of the incorrect regulation/advice regarding gas meters.
     
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    That depends upon whether one wants to comply with regulations or with electrical principles and common sense :)

    Kind Regards, John
     
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    Just realised - on a non-electrical matter -

    there is a branch pipe before the meter ???
     
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    There does appear to be.

    Our setup here is exactly the same, the branch just upstream of our meter travels the entire length of our cellar to feed the neighbour's meter. I obviously have no idea as to whether the explanation is the same in the OP's case.

    Kind Regards, John
     
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    If it were the case the stop cock would turn off the neighbour too. Is that what you have too John? I suppose it makes sense if there is a burst, but could be inconvenient for the neighbour.
     
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    There is another stop tap between pipe and meter.
     
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    I saw that branch but originally thought it passes behind the other. Does that mean only one branch into the property is metered?
     
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    Yes, but, just as with mine (and has EFLI has observed) there are stopcocks on both sides of the branch (in my case to the neighbour's). Hence one of those turns off the supplies to both properties, and the other turns off the supply just to mine. I would presume that there is another stopcock just before the neighbour's meter - so (in the event of their having a leak), they could turn off their supply without affecting mine (and, similarly, I can use the 'second' stopcock to turn off my house's supply without affecting theirs). Only if there were a leak in the pipe through my cellar (feeding the neighbour) would I have to use the upstream of my two stopcocks, thereby cutting off supply to both houses.

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    As I've said, if it is like what I have here, the branch would go to the neighbouring property, where it is separately metered.

    Kind Regards, John
     
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