Electrical sign off for new wiring, level of qualification ?

[mikeyw]

I've had a problem with a contractor whereby he's left a rewire for a new flat part way through leaving his colleague to finish off.

The colleague is only part qualified but keeping the business as a going concern.

To sign off the work what level does he need to be qualified to ?

tia,
Mike.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

It would depend on what notification procedures are/have been taken and consideration to where you are located in the UK, as the union members all have a different take on it.

If you have applied directly to building controls, the electrician will only require to sign off via inspection, test and certification. A knowledge of these procedures and an understanding of the results and how to fill the form in would be required but no formal quals and building cons will do the rest.

If it is a self-notification via a scheme, if the electrician is not a member of a scheme, which I doubt they are, you are in a pickle.

http://www.elecsa.co.uk/documents/public-documents/contractors/notifiable-work-in-england-2013.aspx

 

[plugwash]

BS7671 installation certificates can be signed off by anyone who belives themselves competant to do so. Of course if the **** hits the fan they had better be able to justify that competance.

The bigger problem is building regs notification. You need to find out ASAP whether the remaining electrician is part of a self certification scheme and if not what the plans for notification of the work are.

 

[JohnW2]

BS7671 installation certificates can be signed off by anyone who belives themselves competant to do so. Of course if the s**t hits the fan they had better be able to justify that competance.

Indeed - but, in reality, that substance would only be likely to hit the fan in a significant way if the work itself had been undertaken incompetently/ dangerously (leading to some 'incident'), in which case the issue of the paperwork would probably be the least of the individual's problems!

The bigger problem is building regs notification. You need to find out ASAP whether the remaining electrician is part of a self certification scheme and if not what the plans for notification of the work are.

Indeed so.

Kind Regards, John

 

[ericmark]

Simple answer is enough.
Having enough or not enough has nothing to do with any paper qualifications.
There are standards and C&G 2391 or 2392 are generality considered as showing the skill required.
But we are harmonised with Europe so there is a whole host of paper qualifications which could be accepted.
The basic idea is no one can sign off some one else's work but clearly people do die and there are times when work has to be taken over.
It is a professional call as to what one accepts there is no hard and fast limit.

 

[ericmark]

Qualifications levels are as one would expect 1, 2 , 3 4 etc
Up to level 3 means collage after level 3 means university so a foundation degree or HNC or HND = level 5 and a C&G 2391 for example is level 3 but also a C&G 2382 is level 3 and all that means is one can read a book.

Once one exceeds level 3 (A level is level 3) then it is clear one has some special skills, but level 3 covers such a huge range it covers an electricians mate to ONC which many an electrician failed to get.

So level 2 = "0" level
Level 3 = "A" level
Don't know a level 4
Level 5 = HNC, HND, foundation degree.
Level 6 = Hon degree.
Level 7 to 9 = doctorate to professor.

In real terms electricians are level 3 but there is such a range within the level 3 that it means very little. I walked through C&G 2382 but it was hard work to pass C&G 2391 yet both classed as level 3.