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- 15 Nov 2005
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smart plugs will generally not start an appliance that is turned off. they will just put it into standby.
It could, up to a point (if the appliances would come on at 'power up', which most won't these days) - but only if that 'bit of programming' included the ability to have real-time access to data relating to the day's cheap/expensive periods (from meter, websites or wherever).Smart plugs and a bit of programming should be able to take care of that without waiting for the Smart appliances to appear.
Another point, in passing. If we get to the stage at which many suppliers are offering dynamic TOU tariffs (and many consumers are using them), then I imagine that there will have to be collaboration between the suppliers, to avoid a situation in which the cheap TOU periods for many/most of them were the same - if, because if an attractively-cheap rate for exactly the same TOU (at a currently very low demand time of day) was offered by all suppliers, then if vast numbers of people switched on their EV chargers at that time, it could turn a 'very-low-demand' time of day into a "very-high-demand" one. That could result (unless the chargers were 'smart'/automated') in very annoying frequent yo-yoing of the cheap times of day!
Totally agreed - but, as you know, at least in the eyes of the government, that is not the main reason (or even a particularly important reason) for having smart meters.As most people's reason for wanting a smart meter is frequently said to be because they can't be bothered to read the meter once a quarter, this all seems to be an awful lot of work.
Yes, one hopes so - but, as I said, if/when multiple companies are offering such tariffs, that will presumably have to be done by collaboration across all suppliers.I would imagine they would take that into consideration, probably they would offer the cheaper supply to a limited number of consumers and offer it at staggered timings rather than all on at one.
As I've said, that is the ultimate hope/aim, and if/when that happens, the 'smart' meters will certainly be serving a very useful purpose. However, as I have said (and you seem to agree), it may well be only the youngest of people reading this (almost certainly not me!) who may still be around to see that day!I do like the idea of the household appliances being able to decide when the best time of the day to operate for cheapest electrical usage.
Although I think it's a long time away as it would take multiple big firms to cooperate and that's not likely to happen anytime soon.
Smart appliances talking to the smart meter and operating at cheaper rates, now that's something to behold and certainly the future.
So do mine (and my tumble dryer), but ....Both my dish washer and washing machine have a “delay start” facility.
... at least with mine, it's not necessarily that 'simple'. Mine offer the choice of delays of 3, 6 and 9 hours, which may or may not work out conveniently for the cheap electricity periods. However, in addition to the general hassle of having to ascertain the timing of the cheap periods and set up one's appliances every day, one would have top be quite disciplined every day to remember to to set the machine(s) roughly 3, 6 or 9 hours before one wanted them to come on!Simply by delaying the start time you can take advantage of cheaper rates.
Staggered TOU tariffs are already here - I think intelligent octopus is one example.
So people still use tumble driers? I don't think I'd want one of those without a TOU tariff!
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