eletrics ok

Mick Leek said:
That wasnt to bad. I was expecting someone to take my trousers down and give me a good telling off for my comments :p
You should be so lucky... ;)

Ban, i have tried to understand the part p but i cant find information on it. I know you guys wont like me saying this but i was thinking of trying to train up a little on electrics (domestic only) to gain a qualification and look at doing the part p.
Part P is the title of one of the parts of the Building Regulations. It is not the name of a qualification or of a course that you can take.

How would i go about doing this ? Is it a case of 3 years at college ( to old for that) or can you train along side an already qualified spark.
That's a very large metal cylinder of wriggly things to want to open. AFAICT, no electrician considers any route to qualifications and competence that is different from the one that he took to be of any value whatsoever. OK - that is a sweeping generalisation, but it might help you to understand any responses you get that say you can't do what you suggest - that you need both the years at college and the training in the field. The traditional time-served apprenticeship , in other words. Let's not open up the debate on how wasteful and inefficient traditional apprenticeships are, but there is no doubt that some practical experience does need to be gained as well as qualifications.

FWIW, here are links to the requirements of the competent person schemes:

http://www.napit.org.uk/html/membership_requirements.html

http://www.eca.co.uk/files/et/ECA_Part P Qualified Supervisor Qualifications.pdf

http://www.niceic.org.uk/partp/partprequire.html

http://www.bsi-global.com/Electrica...lectricalInstallationWorkInformationSheet.pdf

http://www.elecsa.org.uk/Reqs_Costs.asp

However, I have to say (and not because it was my post you didn't read properly - I would say exactly the same no matter whose it was):
I hadnt noticed bans link to the part p documents... thanks for pointing that out to me.
If you can't be bothered to properly read information which is given to you, and follow up on links and references, then you should probably look for a career that demands less learning than electrical installation work.

Dont wory guys i do know quite a lot about electronics. I design computorised firing systems for explosives and firework companies. One of the things i make is a 400V shrike capable of firing 25 individual circuits seperatly but only using 3 conductors, so a ring main doesnt really pose to much problem for me.
The two are completely different. Knowing about electronics will help you with Ohm's Law, of course, but I 100% guarantee that when you start learning about electrical installations you will encounter things that you would never have dreamed of based on what you know about electronics.
 
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ban-all-sheds said:
but I 100% guarantee that when you start learning about electrical installations you will encounter things that you would never have dreamed of based on what you know about electronics.

i agree with ban-all-sheds
 
Cheers guys,

Thanks ban for the pointers and criticism. Much appreciated, and points duly taken in and noted
 
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Just to fill you all in with regards my question, I had a meeting with the BCO officer over seeing the DIY extension, i am just finishing the roof timbers. I asked with regards extending the ring main and if i were allowed to extend.

He said he wouldnt allow that as a non notifiable comencement of work although he said he had NO objection to me doing the electrics. He mentioned the fact that an electrician can not sign off someone elses work BUT he did say he would accept a thing called a periodic check as a satisfactory sign off for work i did :)

Does this mean that all i need to do is find a qualified spark with the relevent qualification to test my circuits and give me a cert ? Would a spark be willing to do this or would he view it as taking food out of his mouth?

Cheers guys,
 

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