England and Wales, formerly Christian countries
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The rot set in with henry 8 deciding he was the head of the church in england, not the pope, interpretation of the bible became a free for all, and over the next 2-300 years various non conformist churches set up, side lining the c of e. In many respect the reformation was brexit version 1.
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Common consensus is that Christianity is bad, it is touted ever more and people are very vocal about it, to the point where Christian beliefs (non same sex marriage, no abortions etc etc) are no longer considered to be allowed.
LGBTQ+ make a big deal about how bad Christianity is and some in the community have hunted down those that have a different view point. Conveniently they don't pick on minority faiths such as Muslim etc any guesses as to why?
Also Christians / British white folk are allowed much better freedom of thought than those of the minority, you won't hear of many Muslims ditching their faith, they'll be cut off from their family, same goes for many other religions.
Last thought, the population of the country is becoming more and more stupid over time and many have forgotten the link between Christmas and Christianity, atheists are very good hypocrites
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I suspect the real rot was the burning alive of innocent people, genocide in the name of the church, and all the abuse to children, young women, mothers etc.. Plus, people waking up to the fact that its a load of old tosh designed solely to control how people live and behave, while often also acting as a form of taxation, which led to huge amounts of corruption. The Church Commissioners for England is one of the largest and wealthiest charities in the UK, currently sitting on £6.33 billion. Praise the Lord!
He says - as he walks around the supermarket buying enough booze to float a battleship.
Except those climate emergency tw*ts.
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Nope. I for one don't drink any more, well almost - maybe the odd single malt at Hogmanay or on Burns Night, or 21st December, but that's all. I don't even have a fowl at Christmas - it's more likely to be a curry, a Chinese meal or Italian at our house on 25th December. This is because I'm an atheist and I know what I don't believe inHe says - as he walks around the supermarket buying enough booze to float a battleship.
Sounds like the perfect Xmas. No fuss, no pressure - and no fecking turkey for a week after.
Did something similar when it was just me and the cat few years ago. Rustled up a curry for myself, some stollen, followed by crackers and cheese - while getting slowly sloshed.
"Praise the Lord! [and pass the ammunition]"
The U.S Marines fighting in the Pacific had another saying: "There're no atheists in foxholes."
Bloody heathens, the lot of ya.
The U.S Marines fighting in the Pacific had another saying: "There're no atheists in foxholes."
Bloody heathens, the lot of ya.
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I don't think you can use terms such as 'better' which imply a superiority of one religion over another and it's been clearly demonstrated over centuries that leads to intolerance and discrimination.
All three mid-eastern religions trace their common roots back to Abraham and have much more in common because of that. The disagreements arise through differences of interpretation. The decline in Christian faith has been a gradual process and cannot be clearly discerned from a single event, like the Dissolution of the Monasteries, but post-war attitudes have brought the C. of E. to a point where questions of faith have become insoluble with matters of personal freedom: the right to question dogma has been much more prevalent in this country because a less Orthodox faith has been prescribed while Orthodox Islam has suffocated such questions in the Mid-east, leading them to stagnate and fall behind in matters of moral relativism and scientific advancement...(Bertie Russell explains it much more eloquently)
British Muslims face few restrictions on their right to question matters of faith and enjoy much greater political freedom than their native land allows, so their faith remains a bedrock in the community to bind them together where political adherence would bring about less cohesion. The argument between Sunni and Shi'a communities will always remain, but so does the difference between Catholic and Protestant. Not so much of a problem in England but the Irish still take it quite seriously.
The trend is an alarming parallel between people who profess to a Christian faith and those who do not advocate any faith at all - on the BBC last night, it showed the trend is almost a mirror image of the fall in faith and the rise in atheism. This line will appear to cross by the mid-century and i see nothing to prevent this happening. In fact it would appear to be inevitable.
After the reign of King Charles, his son will face a huge challenge to make any claim to be head of a dying Church while calls for the abolition of the Monarchy grow louder with each passing generation. By the end of this century there's a very real probability that this country will be broken up into its constituent countries and a secular, republican England will become a political reality.
I'm happy to say i won't be around to see that.
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I think we have all the ingredients for a balkanisation of Britain, Odds.
A recipe for disaster, you mean?
Pretty much so, if it's not already.
I can imagine the monks at Glastonbury Abbey saying something along those lines...have you seen the ruins? It must've been a spectacular site in its heyday and all we see now is a shell of what was a center of power and learning for hundreds of years.
All that wealth became the foundation of the British Empire.
It's notoriously unpredictable to try and say what would happen if this country became more secular but who's to say it'd be for the worst?
