1. Visiting from the US? Why not try DIYnot.US instead? Click here to continue to DIYnot.US.
    Dismiss Notice

Establishing House Boundary

Discussion in 'Building Regulations and Planning Permission' started by Doug99, 23 Aug 2020.

  1. ^woody^

    ^woody^

    Joined:
    3 Sep 2006
    Messages:
    29,587
    Thanks Received:
    3,838
    Location:
    West Mids
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Which religion?
     
  2. Sponsored Links
  3. JohnD

    JohnD

    Joined:
    15 Nov 2005
    Messages:
    66,086
    Thanks Received:
    3,578
    Location:
    Coastal
    Country:
    Cook Islands
    Judeo-Christian.

    Probably all Abrahamic, I don't know.

    See Deuteronomy 27 and 19
     
  4. Nakajo

    Nakajo

    Joined:
    5 Dec 2014
    Messages:
    1,836
    Thanks Received:
    163
    Location:
    Berkshire
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    But god told me to do it.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. blup

    blup

    Joined:
    5 Nov 2007
    Messages:
    1,108
    Thanks Received:
    169
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    The boundary position might be clearer if your neighbour's land has registered title.

    Blup
     
  6. charliegolf

    charliegolf

    Joined:
    7 Jan 2014
    Messages:
    1,039
    Thanks Received:
    72
    Location:
    West Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Boundary lines on deeds and Title Plans are not definitive unless subject to a determined boundary agreement. The Land Registry website reinforces this point over and over.
     
  7. ^woody^

    ^woody^

    Joined:
    3 Sep 2006
    Messages:
    29,587
    Thanks Received:
    3,838
    Location:
    West Mids
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    But they are indicative, and are generally easy to determine where the logical boundary is intended to be.
     
  8. Doug99

    Doug99

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2005
    Messages:
    1,173
    Thanks Received:
    92
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I've viewed the house and the only other issue I have is an extension of the kitchen/diner. It is a large room 6.15m x 6.38m which would have required a steel beam installation. How do I go about checking that the work has been overseen by building regs and certified? The house is vacant and the estate agent just shrugs her shoulders. I'm tempted to make an offer subject to formal contract which will include those checks, but I would rather make my own enquiries as I have been advised a mortgage would not be possible without certification.
    Cheers All
     
  9. jacko555

    jacko555

    Joined:
    5 Feb 2005
    Messages:
    174
    Thanks Received:
    18
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    My local authority lets you search for building regs for an address...
    Have you checked yours/the authority where the house is?
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  10. Sponsored Links
  11. Doug99

    Doug99

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2005
    Messages:
    1,173
    Thanks Received:
    92
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Thanks Jacko, my local council only offers online visibility of planning apps not building control info.
    Just called council building control who have confirmed work at the address in 2017 has not been signed off.
    As I am not the owner they would not go into details whether it refers to the steel work but I have put in a formal request by email if I could obtain a copy of the report.
    The house has been vacant for over 6mths so I'm also raising the matter with the agent.
    What I do want to avoid is spending lots of ££ for a conveyencing solicitor to conduct the searches only to be told in 6-8 weeks its a no go. I need to know now!!
    Basically I will walk away if not certified............. shame as it is a nice house and ticks all the boxes :( .......lots of boxes :( :(
     
  12. jacko555

    jacko555

    Joined:
    5 Feb 2005
    Messages:
    174
    Thanks Received:
    18
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    If it ticks that many boxes, negotiate a hefty discount for the estimated cost of building regs approval and remedial / demolition and rebuild?

    The lack of regs will come up in any sale, and, the seller will know this. Most buyers will walk.

    If you are willing to deal with this potential headache this'll bring, you could get a bargain...

    [Edit]
    Especially if the adjacent field / view could be a housing estate soon. That'll also detract from the value and come up in a Land Search.

    Hit 'em hard, or, walk. They may agree
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  13. blup

    blup

    Joined:
    5 Nov 2007
    Messages:
    1,108
    Thanks Received:
    169
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    They are more a helpful starting point than a physical boundary intentionally moved for gain though.

    Blup
     
  14. mrrusty

    mrrusty

    Joined:
    1 May 2018
    Messages:
    264
    Thanks Received:
    62
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Hmm, but only to a degree. On every recent OS map, and on our registry plan our boundary with next door is straight, but the original old fence/hedge was kinked by about 1m in our favour, and photos from the 50's clearly show the kink in the hedge at that time. A small developer next door was going to install a new fence according to the plans and "take the 1m back", but thankfully didn't take a lot of persuading that the old fence was the correct line for his new fence. The truth of it is that the extra bit of land the kink gives me is probably original to when the house was built, but going way back a strip from our plot was probably "given away" to next door further down our plot to create the kink.

    LR shows general arrangement but is fairly useless for determining the exact position of the current boundary.
     
  15. HERTS P&D

    HERTS P&D

    Joined:
    9 Apr 2010
    Messages:
    10,489
    Thanks Received:
    1,555
    Location:
    Hertfordshire
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    Build a wild life pond and put some newts in it. No-one is building anything near it.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

    Andy
     
  16. Doug99

    Doug99

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2005
    Messages:
    1,173
    Thanks Received:
    92
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
    I'm going to make an offer 'subject to survey', but I understand that the survey is usually for the benefit of the mortgage lender. When they discover that the steel work has not been signed off, how can I avoid them walking away?
    A detailed survey would be needed as it has been left vacant for 9mths and hopefully establish any cost of additional works, which would then be put to the vendor with a reduced offer.
    I've emailed the local building control to ask what they mean by the steel work being 'not signed off'. Is it a staged process? If all the calculations have been authorised and installation inspected, would these all have individual 'sign offs' before formal certification?
    I'm keen to get things moving as the property is deteriorating and can only get worse as the bad weather moves in.
    Grateful for any pointers
    Cheers All.
     
  17. Doug99

    Doug99

    Joined:
    14 Jan 2005
    Messages:
    1,173
    Thanks Received:
    92
    Location:
    Glamorgan
    Country:
    United Kingdom
Loading...

Share This Page