Farage

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes that's all good. Nobody should be denied banking facilities on political grounds. I don't think anybody denies that.

Financial, is different

 

[JohnD]

already answered
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"account not being closed for political reasons, but because he fell below the wealth limit".

You're very reluctant to say "yes" or "no"

Do you consider it to be defamatory?

 

[fillyboy]

You're very reluctant to say "yes" or "no"

Do you consider it to be defamatory?

 

[gant]

MSN

Anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller has warned that “we don’t have a functioning democracy” if new political parties cannot access banking services after she was told her own party’s account would be shut.

The Government and financial services watchdog must step in and ensure new parties and MPs can access banking to be able to operate, she said.

Ms Miller said it is a “bigger issue” than the closure of Nigel Farage’s bank account, which led to a row resulting in the resignations of the top bosses at NatWest and Coutts.

Ms Miller, who came to prominence bringing legal cases over Brexit, was informed earlier this month by Monzo that her True and Fair Party’s account would close in September.

She was told in a message on the bank’s app but was given no explanation.

Monzo has now said it does not accept any political parties and that the account was opened erroneously as it was not categorised as such in the application.

Nine banks had turned down the True and Fair Party before it got the account with Monzo in November 2021, according to Ms Miller.

She told the PA news agency: “That is the bigger issue, the fact that as a new insurgent political party you have no access to banking services, which is extraordinary in a democracy.”

The party has now found a small institution to bank with, but Ms Miller fears “what if they turn around in future and say ‘well actually we’ve decided for no reason that because you’re a political party, you can’t have a bank account’?”

“I think the Government and the FCA (Financial Conduct Authority) have got to step in straightaway because if this happened – we lose our account in September for Monzo, and then another bank or our new provider decides that they will use this same rule saying ‘oh well we don’t accept political parties’ – then we in effect won’t exist.

“We wouldn’t be able to operate because we wouldn’t have any access to any banking services.”



Concerns over de-banking have mounted after Mr Farage said his account with Coutts was shut down because it disagreed with his political views.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak weighed in to say his Government was taking “tough action” to protect the free speech of banking customers.

NatWest chief executive Dame Alison Rose stepped down this week after both Downing Street and the Treasury expressed their “serious concerns” about her conduct after she admitted to being the source of an incorrect BBC report on the former Ukip leader’s finances.

Ms Miller noted that Mr Farage had been offered an alternative account with NatWest and said her case pointed to wider issues.

She said: “What I’m saying is actually even bigger than that, which is how can we have a proper functioning democracy if we can’t have new parties or new elected people.”

She also raised concerns over newly-elected MPs being de-banked due to lenders using rules around politically exposed persons (PEP) in a “dysfunctional way”.

Her True and Fair Party is standing nine candidates in the next general election, with Ms Miller running against Tory former minister Chris Grayling in Epsom, Ewell and Leatherhead.

The financial regulator is currently looking into whether PEP rules, over anyone considered to be higher risk because of their political connection, are applied too rigorously by banks amid concerns many British politicians are denied accounts.

A spokeswoman for Monzo said: “Like lots of banks, we do not accept any political parties as Monzo Business customers in the same way that we don’t currently accept trusts, clubs and a range of other organisations.

“In this case, the account wasn’t originally categorised as a political party.

“After this was identified and corrected, the customer was given notice that the account would be closed.

“We recognise that this experience will have been frustrating for the customer and we’re sorry for that.”

There is no suggestion Monzo factored Ms Miller’s political views into its decision.

Gina Millar of all people, a bit too cute for her own wellbeing springs to mind.

 

[Dork Lard]

MSN

Anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller has warned that “we don’t have a functioning democracy” if new political parties cannot access banking services after she was told her own party’s account would be shut.

The Government and financial services watchdog must step in and ensure new parties and MPs can access banking to be able to operate, she said.

Ms Miller said it is a “bigger issue” than the closure of Nigel Farage’s bank account, which led to a row resulting in the resignations of the top bosses at NatWest and Coutts.

Ms Miller, who came to prominence bringing legal cases over Brexit, was informed earlier this month by Monzo that her True and Fair Party’s account would close in September.

She was told in a message on the bank’s app but was given no explanation.

Monzo has now said it does not accept any political parties and that the account was opened erroneously as it was not categorised as such in the application.

Nine banks had turned down the True and Fair Party before it got the account with Monzo in November 2021, according to Ms Miller.

She told the PA news agency: “That is the bigger issue, the fact that as a new insurgent political party you have no access to banking services, which is extraordinary in a democracy.”

The party has now found a small institution to bank with, but Ms Miller fears “what if they turn around in future and say ‘well actually we’ve decided for no reason that because you’re a political party, you can’t have a bank account’?”

“I think the Government and the FCA (Financial Conduct Authority) have got to step in straightaway because if this happened – we lose our account in September for Monzo, and then another bank or our new provider decides that they will use this same rule saying ‘oh well we don’t accept political parties’ – then we in effect won’t exist.

“We wouldn’t be able to operate because we wouldn’t have any access to any banking services.”



Concerns over de-banking have mounted after Mr Farage said his account with Coutts was shut down because it disagreed with his political views.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak weighed in to say his Government was taking “tough action” to protect the free speech of banking customers.

NatWest chief executive Dame Alison Rose stepped down this week after both Downing Street and the Treasury expressed their “serious concerns” about her conduct after she admitted to being the source of an incorrect BBC report on the former Ukip leader’s finances.

Ms Miller noted that Mr Farage had been offered an alternative account with NatWest and said her case pointed to wider issues.

She said: “What I’m saying is actually even bigger than that, which is how can we have a proper functioning democracy if we can’t have new parties or new elected people.”

She also raised concerns over newly-elected MPs being de-banked due to lenders using rules around politically exposed persons (PEP) in a “dysfunctional way”.

Her True and Fair Party is standing nine candidates in the next general election, with Ms Miller running against Tory former minister Chris Grayling in Epsom, Ewell and Leatherhead.

The financial regulator is currently looking into whether PEP rules, over anyone considered to be higher risk because of their political connection, are applied too rigorously by banks amid concerns many British politicians are denied accounts.

A spokeswoman for Monzo said: “Like lots of banks, we do not accept any political parties as Monzo Business customers in the same way that we don’t currently accept trusts, clubs and a range of other organisations.

“In this case, the account wasn’t originally categorised as a political party.

“After this was identified and corrected, the customer was given notice that the account would be closed.

“We recognise that this experience will have been frustrating for the customer and we’re sorry for that.”

There is no suggestion Monzo factored Ms Miller’s political views into its decision.

I can't quite work out whether Gina Miller was the victim of being "cancelled" or whether it was her imaginary political party . . . .

 

[blup]

MSN

Anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller has warned that “we don’t have a functioning democracy” if new political parties cannot access banking services after she was told her own party’s account would be shut.

The Government and financial services watchdog must step in and ensure new parties and MPs can access banking to be able to operate, she said.

Ms Miller said it is a “bigger issue” than the closure of Nigel Farage’s bank account, which led to a row resulting in the resignations of the top bosses at NatWest and Coutts.

Ms Miller, who came to prominence bringing legal cases over Brexit, was informed earlier this month by Monzo that her True and Fair Party’s account would close in September.

She was told in a message on the bank’s app but was given no explanation.

Monzo has now said it does not accept any political parties and that the account was opened erroneously as it was not categorised as such in the application.

Nine banks had turned down the True and Fair Party before it got the account with Monzo in November 2021, according to Ms Miller.

She told the PA news agency: “That is the bigger issue, the fact that as a new insurgent political party you have no access to banking services, which is extraordinary in a democracy.”

The party has now found a small institution to bank with, but Ms Miller fears “what if they turn around in future and say ‘well actually we’ve decided for no reason that because you’re a political party, you can’t have a bank account’?”

“I think the Government and the FCA (Financial Conduct Authority) have got to step in straightaway because if this happened – we lose our account in September for Monzo, and then another bank or our new provider decides that they will use this same rule saying ‘oh well we don’t accept political parties’ – then we in effect won’t exist.

“We wouldn’t be able to operate because we wouldn’t have any access to any banking services.”



Concerns over de-banking have mounted after Mr Farage said his account with Coutts was shut down because it disagreed with his political views.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak weighed in to say his Government was taking “tough action” to protect the free speech of banking customers.

NatWest chief executive Dame Alison Rose stepped down this week after both Downing Street and the Treasury expressed their “serious concerns” about her conduct after she admitted to being the source of an incorrect BBC report on the former Ukip leader’s finances.

Ms Miller noted that Mr Farage had been offered an alternative account with NatWest and said her case pointed to wider issues.

She said: “What I’m saying is actually even bigger than that, which is how can we have a proper functioning democracy if we can’t have new parties or new elected people.”

She also raised concerns over newly-elected MPs being de-banked due to lenders using rules around politically exposed persons (PEP) in a “dysfunctional way”.

Her True and Fair Party is standing nine candidates in the next general election, with Ms Miller running against Tory former minister Chris Grayling in Epsom, Ewell and Leatherhead.

The financial regulator is currently looking into whether PEP rules, over anyone considered to be higher risk because of their political connection, are applied too rigorously by banks amid concerns many British politicians are denied accounts.

A spokeswoman for Monzo said: “Like lots of banks, we do not accept any political parties as Monzo Business customers in the same way that we don’t currently accept trusts, clubs and a range of other organisations.

“In this case, the account wasn’t originally categorised as a political party.

“After this was identified and corrected, the customer was given notice that the account would be closed.

“We recognise that this experience will have been frustrating for the customer and we’re sorry for that.”

There is no suggestion Monzo factored Ms Miller’s political views into its decision.

Different point, far rage isn’t a political party

Blup

 

[gant]

Why does he do it? Click bait?

 

[gant]

Different point, far rage isn’t a political party

Blup

How can you say that when her ambitions are so painfully obvious.

 

[gant]

Yes that's all good. Nobody should be denied banking facilities on political grounds. I don't think anybody denies that.

Financial, is different

This is happening if they dont sign up too being woke, being someone who agrees in things might have gone to far how do we wrestle back the situation?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

This is happening if they dont sign up too being woke, being someone who agrees in things might have gone to far how do we wrestle back the situation?

Word salad rubbish.

There's 2 parts to Farages story but you only recognise 1 part.

Let me repeat. Nobody should be refused banking facilities for political reasons alone.

 

[gant]

Word salad rubbish.

There's 2 parts to Farages story but you only recognise 1 part.

Let me repeat. Nobody should be refused banking facilities for political reasons alone.

Thought I said the story is bigger than Farages account but lets not dwell on that and concentrate on the cancelling of bank accounts that one Gina Millar has spoken out about.
Given cash is being forced out and digital currency is becoming the only way to do business, then looking down a gun barrel appears obvious.
Always open to being open for explanations to tell me I don't understand.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Thought I said the story is bigger than Farages account but lets not dwell on that and concentrate on the cancelling of bank accounts that one Gina Millar has spoken out about.
Given cash is being forced out and digital currency is becoming the only way to do business, then looking down a gun barrel appears obvious.
Always open to being open for explanations to tell me I don't understand.

Agree with her point.

Up to the Government to sort it.

Farage is different

 

[gant]

Agree with her point.

Up to the Government to sort it.

Not got much of a platform to effect change has she.
Government win again, done up like a kipper? Perhaps not lol.

 

[motorbiking]

You're very reluctant to say "yes" or "no"

Do you consider it to be defamatory?

In at least half a dozen posts I have suggested he has a strong claim for damages. Certainly enough for the bank to offer settlement, which I suspect has already been agreed.

So yes, I think there are a number of legal wrongs including defamation that Nige can seek damages for.

I’d be keen to here your reasoning, that he has not invited damages nor been legally wronged.

I suspect you won’t share.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Not got much of a platform to effect change has she.
Government win again, done up like a kipper? Perhaps not lol.

Enough to get Fillys attention